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Need a little help! Did they ever make a 45-90 with 20 in,barrel? Half octogon half round gun dealer swears they did! I think he want to make a sale. LoL
My guess is the barrel has been cut. Can you post photographs and is a factory letter available?
To the best of my knowledge there never was a half round short rifle. If it has a 20″ barrel I would be troubled by it.
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Need a little help! Did they ever make a 45-90 with 20 in,barrel? Half octogon half round gun dealer swears they did! I think he want to make a sale. LoL
It is certainly possible for it to be original, but as mentioned, it needs to authenticated with a CFM factory letter.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
oldcrankyyankee said
To the best of my knowledge there never was a half round short rifle. If it has a 20″ barrel I would be troubled by it.
I would not be willing to make that bet. In fact, it is much more likely that a few of them were actually made than not.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
The William L. Porter research lists 113 20″ barreled 1886’s. It does not list caliber or type of barrel. I guess one of the 113 could be a 45-90.
In the late 90’s I was offered a pricey 20″ 86 at Las Vegas by a large dealer, I think Pete Shavers. He gave me a list of guns, I looked but can’t find it. From memory I’m thinking 45-90 full octagon. T/R
January 26, 2011
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Here’s a 20″ Extra heavy in 40-65 that’s been at the Cody Show a few years back and went back and forth between a couple collectors some of us know. Talk about rarity, it’s quite an interesting specimen.
If you run out of ammo, it makes for a very effective club. This is assuming the other man has run out of ammo as well.
~Gary~
I think I seen a 45-90 20″ 1/2 oct. at auction a years ago, that had a letter. Big $ I have 2 20″ 86s that I posted here, a 33 and a 38-56 carbine with nickel steel barrel.
pdog72 said
Here’s a 20″ Extra heavy in 40-65 that’s been at the Cody Show a few years back and went back and forth between a couple collectors some of us know. Talk about rarity, it’s quite an interesting specimen.If you run out of ammo, it makes for a very effective club. This is assuming the other man has run out of ammo as well.
Fall 2016 (winchestercollector.org)
I appreciated his discussion of, “heavy” and, “extra heavy” barrels in this article.
steve004 said
pdog72 said
Here’s a 20″ Extra heavy in 40-65 that’s been at the Cody Show a few years back and went back and forth between a couple collectors some of us know. Talk about rarity, it’s quite an interesting specimen.
If you run out of ammo, it makes for a very effective club. This is assuming the other man has run out of ammo as well.
Fall 2016 (winchestercollector.org)
I appreciated his discussion of, “heavy” and, “extra heavy” barrels in this article.
I would have loved to talk to the person who ordered this rifle – just what they were thinking – what their point was. Longer barreled extra heavy rifles make more sense – but 20 inches – extra heavy? Again, would have loved to know what he was after.
Tongue in cheek here, after digging to the back of the safe and pulling out a couple half round 86’s today. If said rifle was in fact a short rifle, that given the measurements I have observed today on 26″ barrels, would the short rifle with a 20″ barrel technically be a 2/3 oct 1/3 round?
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