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I have this ’73, 15″ trapper s.r.c.  My question is ; being antique does this gun need to be listed with the B.A..T.F. 20210123_104747.jpgImage Enlarger20210123_104833.jpgImage Enlarger20210123_104903.jpgImage Enlarger

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Henry,

No, it does not need to be listed with the BATF.  The Factory letter clearly identifies it as “Antique”, therefore making it perfectly legal to own it, sell it, or ship it without any interference from the U.S. government.  That stated, some states do not abide by the Federal regulations, instead imposing more stringent requirements. 

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OK THanks Bert

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I have a good condition M1892 whereby the serial number was altered at some point to represent it as an antique. I bought it and it was sold by a very reputable LGS as “antique”. I’m confident they were not aware of the fraud. Being antique or not did not influence my purchase at all since the price seemed reasonable. Is this a legal gun?? if not, who is liable, me or the gun store. State is Pennsylvania.

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I have a good condition M1892 whereby the serial number was altered at some point to represent it as an antique. I bought it and it was sold by a very reputable LGS as “antique”. I’m confident they were not aware of the fraud. Being antique or not did not influence my purchase at all since the price seemed reasonable. Is this a legal gun?? if not, who is liable, me or the gun store. State is Pennsylvania.  

In answer to your question about it being a “legal” firearm, the answer is a definite NO, it is not.  Only a court of law can determine who is liable, but I suspect that the ruling would be both you and the gun store have liability issues.

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Of course when I purchased the gun I was not aware of the fraud as well. Only after researching, and help from others did I become aware of the issue. 

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Any advice of how to – if possible, have this resolved without having to forfeit the firearm?? Again, I like the gun for what I paid. The store sells its “antique” guns as-is, though since this ultimately is not an antique what should/could they do?? 

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I have a good condition M1892 whereby the serial number was altered at some point to represent it as an antique. I bought it and it was sold by a very reputable LGS as “antique”.

The alteration must have been very well done to fool both you & the dealer.  How did you determine the no. had been changed?

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After buying, the Cody records indicates for that serial# a caliber of 44, gun is 25-20; later tang, and barrel stamps; serial # font irregularities. Has no sign of overstamp or grinding??  Had help from our resident expert. It’s a nice correct gun – except for the serial # just not an antique!! Bore is beautiful. Price was right – for a legal gun.

 

do I contact the ATF? My sales receipt, etc. all indicates the incorrect serial # and it being an “antique”.  

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do I contact the ATF?  

Sure, if you want a boatload of trouble, & possibly confiscation of the gun.  At this point, nobody but YOU, & now US, knows there’s any problem with the gun, & who would undertake all that detective work without some reason to be suspicious.  Are you planning to sell it?  If not, why not let the sleeping dog lie. 

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do I contact the ATF?  

Sure, if you want a boatload of trouble, & possibly confiscation of the gun.  At this point, nobody but YOU, & now US, knows there’s any problem with the gun, & who would undertake all that detective work without some reason to be suspicious.  Are you planning to sell it?  If not, why not let the sleeping dog lie.   

That has been my more rational thought as well. Again it was bought as a shooter and wall hanger at the camp. Never will this be up for sale in my life-time. All the sales paperwork matches to what’s on the gun so it was bought and sold with good intentions. I can sleep at night.    

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 I can sleep at night.      

You must not own any so-called “assault rifles,” soon, very possibly, to be re-classified as Class 3 weapons, or otherwise restricted.  ATF won’t have time to be chasing down misnumbered ’92s.

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clarence said

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 I can sleep at night.      

You must not own any so-called “assault rifles,” soon, very possibly, to be re-classified as Class 3 weapons, or otherwise restricted.  ATF won’t have time to be chasing down misnumbered ’92s.  

Correct, I do not. I’m a bolt – M70, M43 kind of guy. That’s why I stumbled on the lever.  

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