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Interesting conundrum with a, "one of a kind" M1886 Winchester
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There’s some very interesting Winchester’s at the Redding auction.  He is a one of a kind M1886.  Or at least, it was a one of a kind.  The feature that made it so very special is the extra heavy barrel. However, as the descriptions mentions, the barrel is not original.  I can’t quite decipher if the original barrel was restored (i.e. 12 inches added back on) or duplicated to original specifications?  What a tragedy (crime?) occurred the day that barrel was lobbed off.  I suppose whoever did this was trying to make the rifle usable.  I can imagine in it’s original configuration, it would have been heavy in the hand to carry all day.

Winchester – Mod. 1886 – 45-70 Cal. Lever Action Rifle – Here is a Very Interesting 1886 as When it Shipped Originally
From Winchester in 1892, it Was Factory Special Ordered w/A 28” Extra Heavy 12 ½ Pound Octagon Barrel & Set Triggers –
When This Gun Was Purchased by a Winchester Collector by the Name of Terry Mauk, (For Whom We Sold His Collection
Around 2009), in the Early 2000s it Had a Regular 26” 45-70 Cal. Barrel & About 16” of the Original 12 ½” Pound Barrel
w/the Forearm & Cap – Terry Did Research & Found Out Through Talking w/John Madl Who Wrote the “Identifying Your
Model 1886 Winchester” Book That This Gun is 1 of 33 Heavy Weighed Barrels Made by Winchester in the Model 1886 & 1
of 9 w/Set Trigger, 1 of 2, w/28” Barrel & 1 of 1 w/12 ½ Pound Barrel – Terry, w/The Help of the Winchester Community
Was Put in Touch w/A Company Named Wind River Rifle Co. That Specialized in Making Barrels for Winchester to the
Correct Specs of the Time Period w/Even the Correct Barrel Stamping Dies – This Gun Was Shipped to Them Around 2007 &
They Performed the Work on the Barrel, Forearm & Magazine Tube to Restore it Back to its Original Configuration – With
That Being Said, Here is the Opportunity to Own the Only Winchester 1886 12 ½ Pound Barrel Gun Ever Made, Even Though
the Barrel is Not Original but Made Correctly to Winchester Specs – Gun Has a Straight Grip Wood Butt Stock w/Metal
Crescent Butt Plate – w/Tang Peep Sight & Set Trigger & Heavy!! – Factory Letter Accompanies the Gun – Fully Operational
– Mfg. in 1892 – Serial #54318

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That’s an interesting rifle there. Strikes close to home as I have an 1886 with a 30″ extra heavy chambered in 45-90 with 1x wood that letters. Darn thing gotta weight close to 14 lbs.

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 I have a 86 in 45-90 with a 32″ extra hvy barrel that letters 15lbs. The barrel is larger than the receiver. T/R

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TR said
 I have a 86 in 45-90 with a 32″ extra hvy barrel that letters 15lbs. The barrel is larger than the receiver. T/R  

That’s an interesting rifle there. Strikes close to home as I have an 1886 with a 30″ extra heavy chambered in 45-90 with 1x wood that letters. Darn thing gotta weight close to 14 lbs.

 

Thanks to both of you for the information on your rifles.  Those are two very amazing rifles.  Can I ask what each rifle weighs?

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Mine weights about 14 lbs. TR I posted some pics a bit ago in regards to another 86 I have, it’s 45-90 with a round barrel but, it measures smaller than standard barreled guns I have. It measures at 26″ long. I’m thinking it is called a rapid taper. looking for input. thanks Tom

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Hello,

How rare is an 1886 with 32inch barrel?? I have a 38-56.

 

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Hey Mitch can you post pics of it,?

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Hello,

I cannot post pics ( quest) But the rifle does letter:

38-56

Octagon barrel, 32 inches, Set trigger, German Silver Knife Blade front sight

Rec’d Warehouse 11/9/1892 Shipped 11/10/1892  Order number 9573

 

Sorry for adding to this original post probably should have started a new one, but I saw TR’s reply that he had a 32 in 86

 

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The William Porter research found 200 M1886’s in the ledger with 32 inch barrels.  But remember, there were also 374 M1886 muskets – that also had 32 inch barrels.  So, the total number of M1886’s (all variations) in the ledgers with 32 inch barrels would be 574.  

I had a 32 inch barreled .50-110.  Wish I had it back.

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Thanks for the info!  Had no idea how many 32-inch 86’s were made.

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Steve I believe the ’86 musket has a 30″ bbl., at least mine does

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Henry Mero said
Steve I believe the ’86 musket has a 30″ bbl., at least mine does  

Thanks Henry.  I’ve never owned one.  But I had my Madis’ handbook nearby and he says 30 inches for muskets Embarassed

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