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TXGunNut said

mrcvs said

Henry Mero said
 There are lots of anti – humidity products out there like Damp-Rid , Bamboo packs ,etc., but why on earth would Youwant to keep Your guns in the garage.
  

The safe in the basement could flood, that’s why I’ve explored the garage idea.  Flooding from within and not from outside.  Even a pinhole leak from PEX tubing left unchecked could be disastrous.  They HAVE happened before but I have caught them in time.
  

Another problem with a gun safe in the basement is in the event of a fire the water used to extinguish the fire will find its way to the basement. In more extreme cases the gun safe will wind up in the basement but most safes will not protect their contents in this category of fire. If I had a house with a basement I’d give serious thought to a climate-controlled garage. Tools and other toys seem to appreciate moderate environments just as our blue steel and walnut treasures do. 
 
Mike
  

I never thought of this!  My reasoning as to the basement location is that fire works its way vertically.  Lower locations being better.  Being on a concrete base means the safe can’t fall, hence my basement location.

And so, for these reasons, independent of owning an old bank building with a vault (I would do this if I had the means), where is the best location in a house to put a safe?  I would think a one story addition like a covered and enclosed back porch addition (1 story, on a concrete slab) might be the best location, except these tend to not be heated or air conditioned.  The next best thing might be the garage, again 1 story, concrete slab, but the heating issue is a problem.  If you have more structure surrounding a safe (multiple stories), a fire could be hotter and longer.  The issue is these fire resistant safes really aren’t that for a very long period of time.

The insurance industry says the most useful thing about a monitored security system is early fire detection and reporting. If heat and smoke particle sensors are wisely placed, the odds of stopping a fire before it can go over a 1 alarm event are greatly improved. This is more true if you live near a well equipped, full-time fire station. Suburban living has its disadvantages but a lack of quick firefighting response is usually not one of them. 

Fires started by lightning strikes are impossible to predict and rare, although there was one in our subdivision. Otherwise, the likely trouble spots are near gas powered HVAC fire boxes and clothes dryers.

Unattended Lithium ion batteries being charged have exploded like Napalm canisters and burned houses to the ground. I think a lot of that starts with cheap no-name batteries and hot-shot chargers without overheat detection circuitry.

The Pacific Rim will build to whatever standard a manufacturer will pay for. I have never had a problem with Nikon, Canon, DeWalt, Bosch, and other quality brands.

I thought iGo lawn equipment batteries were overpriced but one lowball aftermarket substitute battery taught me the difference. It swelled up and got too hot to touch on the charger. Had I left it there overnight, it could well have burned the house down. We have seen three major fires in our subdivision that started from charging Li accessory batteries. Granted, those were years ago when Li was just beginning to replace Nickel Cadmium cells. But I make it a point to buy familiar brands I trust. 

I prefer to flip the old saying on its head:

“FIRE, LIKE GOVERNMENT, IS A DANGEROUS SERVANT AND A FEARFUL MASTER.”

Zebulon said
The insurance industry says the most useful thing about a monitored security system is early fire detection and reporting. If heat and smoke particle sensors are wisely placed, the odds of stopping a fire before it can go over a 1 alarm event are greatly improved. This is more true if you live near a well equipped, full-time fire station. Suburban living has its disadvantages but a lack of quick firefighting response is usually not one of them. 
Fires started by lightning strikes are impossible to predict and rare, although there was one in our subdivision. Otherwise, the likely trouble spots are near gas powered HVAC fire boxes and clothes dryers.
Unattended Lithium ion batteries being charged have exploded like Napalm canisters and burned houses to the ground. I think a lot of that starts with cheap no-name batteries and hot-shot chargers without overheat detection circuitry.
The Pacific Rim will build to whatever standard a manufacturer will pay for. I have never had a problem with Nikon, Canon, DeWalt, Bosch, and other quality brands.
I thought iGo lawn equipment batteries were overpriced but one lowball aftermarket substitute battery taught me the difference. It swelled up and got too hot to touch on the charger. Had I left it there overnight, it could well have burned the house down. We have seen three major fires in our subdivision that started from charging Li accessory batteries. Granted, those were years ago when Li was just beginning to replace Nickel Cadmium cells. But I make it a point to buy familiar brands I trust. 
I prefer to flip the old saying on its head:
“FIRE, LIKE GOVERNMENT, IS A DANGEROUS SERVANT AND A FEARFUL MASTER.”
  

I agree, better than any safe is a good quality alarm company for both burglars and fire.  The response where I live is super quick as well.  I think since the advent of good alarm companies, burglaries are way down.

Not to say that a house couldn’t burn to the ground quickly, but recent fires in my subdivision have been modest, at best, and quickly contained.  Usually a scorched wall with siding damaged, or much less.

I live in a subdivision.  There are very few advantages to this, but the alarm system thing in suburbia is a big one.  Also, someone cleaning out my house mid day would raise eyebrows.  Lack of privacy can work both ways sometimes.