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Winchester Model 75 with scope and iron sights recently sold on GB:
https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/859831671
James
No reason to think not, esp. since everything–gun, scope, box, sights–is so pristine. Gun was produced during short time in 75 production that scope could still be ordered with rifle, as company making the scopes switched to making war goods in 1942.
I’m not crazy about 75s, & don’t think much of these scopes, either, but would say this combination was a good buy for someone! (James–Were you a day late & a dollar short?)
I agree with you, Clarence, especially since everything is so pristine as you mention. However, it does look to me like the package was ordered through Stoeger’s 1940 Shooter’s Bible due to the writing on the scope box.
I’m happy to see that it brought the price it did, which indicates to me that prices for high conditioned factory scoped rifles have lost some, but not a great amount of their value during the downturn we’re seeing. Another thing that most likely contributed to this piece not selling faster than it did, might well be due to the confusion that some collectors and/or very interested buyers with what constitutes a factory scoped Model 75. More specifically, there does seem to be the belief/confusion that, if the stock of one of these rifles with the 8X scope is notched to fit a rear/receiver sight, then the scope was an aftermarket addition.
Personally, I’d like to see this issue discussed here on this forum as it would help clear the air, so to speak, about what is factory work and what is not factory work where these type scoped rifles are concerned, since such discussions can only help our hobby for now and in the long term.
Also, it is interesting to note that Rausch in his article about these type factory scoped 22s, (The Winchester Collector Magazine Summer 2014, p. 46), states that his two examples are in serial number range 18,000-18600…which fits with other ones he has seen. The subject 75, though, has a serial number about a 1,000 earlier than that…in the 17,000 range, which is close to my Malcom scoped 75 serial number. Rifles with scopes mad by manufacturers were available on special order.
Thanks for you response, Clarence!
James
jwm94 said
I agree with you, Clarence, especially since everything is so pristine as you mention. However, it does look to me like the package was ordered through Stoeger’s 1940 Shooter’s Bible due to the writing on the scope box.
James
Yes, but the original buyer could have ordered everything from Stoegers.
A 1939 or ’40 Win. catalog (which I lack) ought to clarify the matter of the rear sight slot. Later target 75s had no slot since they were equipped with a receiver sight, but this is an early production 75 which might be different.
clarence said
Yes, but the original buyer could have ordered everything from Stoegers.
A 1939 or ’40 Win. catalog (which I lack) ought to clarify the matter of the rear sight slot. Later target 75s had no slot since they were equipped with a receiver sight, but this is an early production 75 which might be different.
You’re right about the original buyer could have ordered everything through Stoeger’s and I certainly think that’s what happened with this package.
I meant “receiver sight” and not a rear (barrel) sight, sorry for the confusion there.
James
I’m am and always have been an collector of early model Winchester lever actions, but I must say, this is a beautiful rifle with accessories. I have always admired the Winchester .22 bolt guns and had I seen this one, probably would have bought it. If in fact it has a Stoeger’s connection, that would not bother me at all. I have four grandsons and need to keep my eye out for stuff like this.
win4575 said
I’m am and always have been an collector of early model Winchester lever actions, but I must say, this is a beautiful rifle with accessories.
Nice 75s & examples of this scope are not hard to find–it’s the original “accessories,” all apparently ordered together with the gun, that are extraordinary. Must be an interesting story behind how everything was so well preserved–like the original buyer was drafted, or joined up, before he had the opportunity to do anything with the gun…& never came back.
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