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Just wondering how often others here run across undesirables who fail to send payment after saying sold, or ask you to delete your ad and pack it for shipping. .
I’ve met my share, & a few really had me fooled in the past. Shame on me.
Wish we could post a list of these dead beats!
AG
I have had 2 of those in the recent past. Both on high dollar items. They hit the b.i.n. button and then vanish. No response to emails, and don’t answer the phone they have listed.
Shoot low boys. They're riding Shetland Ponies.
AG said
Just wondering how often others here run across undesirables who fail to send payment after saying sold, or ask you to delete your ad and pack it up for shipping…
Should have added “sold pending receipt of payment” to ad, not deleted.
Supposedly, the on-line sites place a ban on further bidding by deadbeats if they are notified.
clarence said
Should have added “sold pending receipt of payment” to ad, not deleted.
Supposedly, the on-line sites place a ban on further bidding by deadbeats if they are notified.
That guy was very convincing Clarence & I really thought he was legit. Was just another dead beat!!
AG
Who are you asking Eagle?. I’m referring to private sale. Old Logger, didn’t say on his reply.
AG
Folks, Consider me rather JAUNDICED about any sale until one of two things happen–a deposit to hold the rifle until the balance is received, or paid in full. I sell but very few myself, and those have been at Cody. I have had any number where I was asked to put it under the table as he would be “right back” with the cash. Never see them again and I suspected that to be the case at the time. These were NOT fellow table holders that I might know, but suspect they were “public” coming through. One year my brother was with me, and was glad for me. I told him the “be back” would never be seen again. He didn’t believe me, but did by the end of Sunday! Goes with the territory. Don’t know if they find a better deal, find one they prefer better, or have guilty thoughts and decide to get nothing. Doesn’t really matter. I try to be forthright with others. There have been folks with a rifle I would like, IF I can sell one of mine. I will tell them that if I say anything at all. A few offer to put it under their table and I say “NO! Sell it if you can!”. Then, later, if my rifle is not selling I will go back and tell them that and wish they can make a deal with another. I try to treat others the way I would like to be treated. Tim
I can’t speak for shows, but I think the ad inquiry dead beats have nothing better to do then talk or portray their a buyer when they have no intention, funds, or otherwise.
AG
My brother and I ran into the occasional ‘buyer’ that wanted us to hold something for them at a gun show. “I’ll be right back.” Nope, 1st one with cash gets it.
Shoot low boys. They're riding Shetland Ponies.
Old Logger said
My brother and I ran into the occasional ‘buyer’ that wanted us to hold something for them at a gun show. “I’ll be right back.”
You’d have to be a prize f* jerk even to ASK such a thing! Maybe if the guy didn’t have enough cash on him, & wanted to borrow the additional from some friend there at the show, or get it out of a cash machine, it would not be too unreasonable to make that request, but ONLY if he left a substantial down payment in your hands. Even then, it’s an embarrassing request to make.
Chuck said
What’s worse the Be Backs or the Would you Takes?
“Be back” just reveals yourself as a fool, but “would you take” is a fundamental part of the negotiation, esp. when you know that the big dealers probably have no more than half what they’re asking in the gun.
Can’t argue any of that Clarence. I don’t mind fair negotiations but dead beats…..
If I wanted a dealer to hold a gun while I went to get someone to give it a look or take it to a table for inspection, I would offer to give them my driver license. Most would agree with some reasonable stipulations. In person at a gun show I feel comfortable judging a person’s character. On the internet, NOT! T/R
In defense of the guys who say they ‘will be right back’ I have had guys do exactly that. You just never know.
Shoot low boys. They're riding Shetland Ponies.
Old Logger said
In defense of the guys who say they ‘will be right back’ I have had guys do exactly that. You just never know.
That’s fine if they leave something with you to prove they aren’t BSers. But I’d never do it, because then you have obligated yourself. Remember that once a show opens to the public, there are no bargains, because if there had been during set up time, another dealer would already have taken advantage of it. An exception are the few who don’t set-up on Friday, & no one sees what they brought until Sat morning; however, all shows open for dealers at least an hour before the public is admitted, so any bargains on Sat won’t last long. It’s also possible that in some of the gigantic shows like Tulsa (which I hate), it’s just physically impossible even for the dealers to see everything, so it’s possible (though HIGHLY unlikely) to stumble on something that hasn’t already been picked over.
Tulsa is a 4200 table show and the bargains do usually disappear on set up day.With later set up time for new table holders and the softning of the gun market bargains lay on the tables longer. Tulsa is so large dealers cannot dominate the market. A lot of my collection was bought at Tulsa on Friday and Saturday. I talk to friends, and walk the aisle, fun. T/R
Wow 4200 tables. Never seen that up here in Ct & Me. I would need a week for that show.
AG
AG said
Wow 4200 tables. Never seen that up here in Ct & Me. I would need a week for that show.AG
Yes you would, but mostly what you’d be seeing is new guns and junk. A group of the dealers (one of whom is a good friend) with legit antiques & other quality stuff asked the promoter to create a separate section for them, so that their customers wouldn’t have to walk their legs off to find them; hell, no, he supposedly said. That’s why I stopped going even when I lived fairly close. But to each his own–if that’s the kind of show you like, more power to you!
November 7, 2015
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I must admit I fell for the “going to the ATM” line several months ago. I told him it would be there until someone bought it but I really believed he was coming back. Nobody else bought it but I told a few that they needed to buy it before the other guy got back from the ATM. 
As a buyer I learned very early that if I walked away from a gun I wanted it had a good chance of going home with someone else. A local gun shop (remember those?) had a used gun rack and a policy of pricing them low to keep the inventory moving. It was there that I learned that if I picked up a gun more than twice it was time to do some paperwork.
Mike
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