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December 26, 2021 - 6:53 pm
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Does anyone have a cleaning rod for a Trapper length barrel?  How many segments does it have?  Are these just a standard rod with less segments or are the segments of a shorter length?

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It depends on the length of your trapper but the rods are all the same length so you just have to figure out how many rods you need. The carbine rods are longer than the rifle rods so  two sections of them would get you a 14″ barrel were the normal 3 section is good for 20″. Two sections of a rifle set would get you 12″ and three sections is good for 18″.

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Thanks Bob.  For some reason I thought that some segments were longer than others.

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Chuck,

Just the carbine sections are longer than the rifles.

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I was given a 4 piece set that when screwed together the tip to tip measurement is 27 1/2″.  The end with the Knob is slightly longer than the 2 middle sections.  The end that holds the patch is longer than the middle sections but not as long as the knob section.

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Chuck,

Those are rifle rods. A 4 piece rod set would be used on a standard 24″ 73. What is the length of your trapper?

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Bob, I don’t own a trapper.  We were talking about rods and the subject came up about different sizes of rods.  I put together a 3 piece rod set and and a 4 piece rod set for the gun shop.  Eventually he gave me the 4 piece.  I don’t remember what the length of the 3 piece set was my guess was that it would fit a carbine.

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 Chuck,

 The best pictures and measurements on cleaning rods are in the book “The Winchester 1873 Handbook” by George Stone page 94 & 95. They list the carbine sets and rifle sets. Yes the length of the rods vary slightly in the sets depending on the knob or loop. The carbine set uses longer rods but only three. T/R

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TR, thanks.  I have other sets but just too lazy to dig through the stuff to find them.  What I remember when I put the 2 sets together for the shop the threads didn’t match each other.  I believe the 3 piece set is a reproduction.  If you didn’t have a real set to compare the threads with you’d never know. Eventually some of the repo artist got the threads right.  I won’t pay a lot of money for a set of rods because you can’t tell the difference.   Early repo sets almost always had issues.

 

The Henry wooden rods are the worst.  At least 20 years ago these popped up on the market all over the place.  About 10 years later they popped up again.  Recently I have been seeing them.  For a $1000 a pop you need to be careful.  We had a chance to compare these with original rods.  These repos were not perfect but they all looked like each other down to the exact same color and finish.  Since a lot of collectors don’t have access to an original rod they won’t know the difference.  I have forgotten most of what I learned about these but the color was not what it should have been.  I don’t have a rod in my Henry and most of my brass collector friends have passed on.

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