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Maverick, did you see the PM I sent you? It was about who was the last owner of the gun in question.
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Chuck,
I’m currently not sure who owns the Bayes rifle in question. I also not sure who sent me the photo of the gun either. I’ve had it to long to remember who.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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Maverick said
Chuck,I’m currently not sure who owns the Bayes rifle in question. I also not sure who sent me the photo of the gun either. I’ve had it to long to remember who.
Sincerely,
Maverick
Maverick, have you seen any of the Briggs Patent guns?
Chuck said
Maverick, have you seen any of the Briggs Patent guns?
I don’t think I’ve every personally handled one, but I believe I saw one in the NRA museum. It must have been the NRA museum or the Gene Autry museum, but don’t remember which. Unless someone had one at a gun show, but even so I would of thought I’d remember such an occasion more clearly. I have yet to make the pilgrimage to Cody!
I know RIA auctioned one off not long ago.
But the one I’m recalling was different, it had a solid brass type sliding forearm, instead of the iron one seen here.
I’ve often wondered if Nelson King, the inventor of the loading gate, was related to V.A. King. But have never put any research into it. V.A. King had several Winchester Loading Tool patents.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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Winchester 1873 open top with “Mystery” dust cover Serial number 27856 lot 292 in Little John’s Auction.
https://www.proxibid.com/20DA-2-1873-WIN/lotInformation/53126679
Chuck said
Winchester 1873 open top with “Mystery” dust cover Serial number 27856 lot 292 in Little John’s Auction.
https://www.proxibid.com/20DA-2-1873-WIN/lotInformation/53126679
Yeah that is someone’s gunsmith or joe blow’s home made work. If the original owner wanted a dust cover, why not just send it back to Winchester and get it put on. Or just even order the parts for the dust cover and have them installed.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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Maverick said
Yeah that is someone’s gunsmith or joe blow’s home made work. If the original owner wanted a dust cover, why not just send it back to Winchester and get it put on. Or just even order the parts for the dust cover and have them installed.
Sincerely,
Maverick
I posted this before I read the article. In the article it clearly states that this gun has a homemade dust cover. The article also mentions a well known maker of reproduction parts. I have 2 of his repo Henry sights that I paid repo prices for. Not sure if he is the one that molested this 73?
March 4, 2020
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Maverick said
I don’t think I’ve every personally handled one, but I believe I saw one in the NRA museum. It must have been the NRA museum or the Gene Autry museum, but don’t remember which. Unless someone had one at a gun show, but even so I would of thought I’d remember such an occasion more clearly. I have yet to make the pilgrimage to Cody!
I know RIA auctioned one off not long ago.
But the one I’m recalling was different, it had a solid brass type sliding forearm, instead of the iron one seen here.
I’ve often wondered if Nelson King, the inventor of the loading gate, was related to V.A. King. But have never put any research into it. V.A. King had several Winchester Loading Tool patents.
Sincerely,
Maverick
Maverick said
I don’t think I’ve every personally handled one, but I believe I saw one in the NRA museum. It must have been the NRA museum or the Gene Autry museum, but don’t remember which. Unless someone had one at a gun show, but even so I would of thought I’d remember such an occasion more clearly. I have yet to make the pilgrimage to Cody!
I know RIA auctioned one off not long ago.
But the one I’m recalling was different, it had a solid brass type sliding forearm, instead of the iron one seen here.
I’ve often wondered if Nelson King, the inventor of the loading gate, was related to V.A. King. But have never put any research into it. V.A. King had several Winchester Loading Tool patents.
Sincerely,
Maverick
The one with the brass forearm is actually a 1865 Patent (English patent) that was produced by Winchester in late 1865 to 1866 for the French for Emperor Maximilian 1st of Mexico. Winchester produced approximately 700 of these out of a 1000 gun contract with the French.
These guns are almost always mistaken for a Briggs patent firearm. There are only 7 known documented ones left. I am in possession of one of these rare firearms.
Sincerley,
James
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