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Barrel crown?
January 14, 2022
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What is the crown on a barrel on a model 1894?

January 15, 2022
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Hello Mark,

You will need to be a bit more specific… are you asking about a Model 1894 Sporting Rifle, and Extra Light Weight (ELW) Rifle, or a Saddle Ring Carbine (SRC)? What specific year of manufacture are you asking about (the serial number will provide that information)?

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Mark V said
What is the crown on a barrel on a model 1894?  

I believe Mark is referencing the muzzle portion of the barrel that directly surrounds the bore.

January 15, 2022
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Bert H. said
Hello Mark,
You will need to be a bit more specific… are you asking about a Model 1894 Sporting Rifle, and Extra Light Weight (ELW) Rifle, or a Saddle Ring Carbine (SRC)? What specific year of manufacture are you asking about (the serial number will provide that information)?
Bert  

am I missing something Bert ? I have yet to see a standard sporting rifle with a ” crowned” muzzle? but obviously a chamfered muzzle on the sporting rifle to finish off the rifling . 

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JEREMY S. said

am I missing something Bert ? I have yet to see a standard sporting rifle with a ” crowned” muzzle? but obviously a chamfered muzzle on the sporting rifle to finish off the rifling .   

There are a very small number of late production Model 94 Sporting Rifles with Proof Steel (versus Nickel Steel) barrels that have a traditional crowned muzzle.  Winchester transitioned the Model 64 barrels from flat uncrowned to crowned muzzles in the latter part of the 1930s, and the Model 94 barrels followed suit.

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January 16, 2022
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Bert H. said
Hello Mark,
You will need to be a bit more specific… are you asking about a Model 1894 Sporting Rifle, and Extra Light Weight (ELW) Rifle, or a Saddle Ring Carbine (SRC)? What specific year of manufacture are you asking about (the serial number will provide that information)?
Bert  

I seen an ad for an for early 1900’s 1894 Sporting Rifle and the ad stated that the crown had been filed. I believe it was referring to the end of the barrel but I’m not sure. I’m not very experienced with old rifles and I’m trying to learn.

Could crown have more than one meaning?

January 16, 2022
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Mark V said

I seen an ad for an for early 1900’s 1894 Sporting Rifle and the ad stated that the crown had been filed. I believe it was referring to the end of the barrel but I’m not sure. I’m not very experienced with old rifles and I’m trying to learn.

Could crown have more than one meaning?  

No, not likely.  The term barrel “Crown” is synonymous with “muzzle face”.  On an early 1900s Model 1894 Sporting Rifle, the barrel should have a flat non-radiused crown.  On some rifles, light traces of the machine milling can still be seen, which could be confused with file marks.  Will need to see a clear (enlarged) picture of the muzzle face to determine its status.

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January 16, 2022
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Bert H. said

No, not likely.  The term barrel “Crown” is synonymous with “muzzle face”.  On an early 1900s Model 1894 Sporting Rifle, the barrel should have a flat non-radiused crown.  On some rifles, light traces of the machine milling can still be seen, which could be confused with file marks.  Will need to see a clear (enlarged) picture of the muzzle face to determine its status.

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I’ll have to find the ad again. Might be tough. At that time I had been looking at rifles sales for hours. 

I think I know what flat means…what is “non-radiused”?

Thanks. I’m trying to learn.

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Bert H. said

There are a very small number of late production Model 94 Sporting Rifles with Proof Steel (versus Nickel Steel) barrels that have a traditional crowned muzzle.  Winchester transitioned the Model 64 barrels from flat uncrowned to crowned muzzles in the latter part of the 1930s, and the Model 94 barrels followed suit.  

ah yes Bert I was aware of the late 94 & 64 . I was talking about the early 1894 guns that the poster was talking about. cheers

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Mark V said

I’ll have to find the ad again. Might be tough. At that time I had been looking at rifles sales for hours. 

I think I know what flat means…what is “non-radiused”?

Thanks. I’m trying to learn.  

non radiused means not rounded

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