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March 4, 2023 - 6:02 pm
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Read the description on this one regarding antique status. What the hell are they talking about??



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Their lawyers have apparently decided to take a very narrow reading of the statute.  My guess is they decided it was simpler to make all cartridge guns ship to an FFL dealer, even if they are antique and if the ammunition is no longer commercially available.  

Here is a link that has definitions for 26 USC 5845


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The person who wrote that is ignorant and cannot read & interpret very well. That stated, I have encountered other sellers who also could not read & interpret the U.S. Code.

For the benefit of all who read this topic, I have quoted below the U.S. Code exactly as it is written.

U.S. Code Title 18, Part I, Chapter 44, Section §921, paragraph (16), an “Antique” firearm is defined as follows;

“(16) The term “antique firearm” means—

(A) any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system) manufactured in or before 1898; or

(B) any replica of any firearm described in subparagraph (A) if such replica—

(i) is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition, or

(ii) uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and which is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade; or

(C) any muzzle loading rifle, muzzle loading shotgun, or muzzle loading pistol, which is designed to use black powder, or a black powder substitute, and which cannot use fixed ammunition. For purposes of this subparagraph, the term “antique firearm” shall not include any weapon which incorporates a firearm frame or receiver, any firearm which is converted into a muzzle loading weapon, or any muzzle loading weapon which can be readily converted to fire fixed ammunition by replacing the barrel, bolt, breechblock, or any combination thereof.”

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 I don’t think this is a new policy for Cabelas. At the store in Wisconsin I have always had to do paper to buy antique guns including a release. They use to ship guns from other Cabelas to my Cabelas and let me do the paper here. I could not negotiate the price and if I didn’t take the gun they charged a shipping fee.

 You sign more than just the background check when you buy a used gun at Cabelas. T/R

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Same at my local orphanage, TR. I’ve done 4473’s for antiques because it was pointless to argue with them. I was pleasantly surprised when a store in another state shipped a rifle to me on my C&R. Local store probably wouldn’t know what to do if I handed them a copy. May try it someday to see if it speeds up the process.



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Every Cabelas seems to have a different policy,, even here in Wisconsin. I recently purchased an antique Colt SAA from the store in Richfield and walked out cash and carry, with no ATF paperwork completed. I have also used my 03FFL at this store numerous times. It helps that I only deal with the Gun Library manager, who is very knowledgable.

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