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Quick question;  What does “From stock” mean under the special features?  Here is the latest result on an 1890 –

 

Serial number applied on June 26, 1905

Caliber: S

Sights: Lyman rear, Cup disc, and Globe

From stock

August 5, 1905

Received in warehouse on August 03, 1905

Shipped from warehouse on August 05, 1905, Order number 19802

 

Does “from stock” mean it was sitting around somewhere (not in the warehouse) for the month of July? 

Just curious – thanks!

 

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Any idea if it means the Lyman sights were “from stock”?  Could “from” be a typo? Wild guesses I suppose.

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I would request a copy of the ledger entry to see exactly how it was written. The first August 5 date is odd too.

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Thank you Gentlemen,

I guess it could mean the Lyman sights came from stock, that makes sense.  Requesting a copy of the ledger is an excellent idea that didn’t occur to me, will give them a call today,  thanks!

The front sight on the rifle has been changed to a folding Beach sight.  Any idea which “globe” front sight the letter refers to?  Would it be a Lyman or Winchester globe?

Again, thanks for the help.

 

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I would say it would be the Lyman since they were more common. When they install a Beach front they usually say Beach.

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Thanks, I appreciate the info.  I don’t have a circa 1905 Lyman catalog, exactly which model sight would I be looking for to put it back to “letter” specs?  I will check the 1905 Winchester catalog tonight to see if there is a picture of the Lyman options.

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I looked at the some catalogs and its possible that the Globe could be the Globe with interchangeable inserts like this.

http://hastingsantiqueguns.com/files/products/387/img8166.jpg-1-1024.jpg

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I scanned some catalog pages of these sights for you also.

The Lyman catalog is from 1902.  The next catalog I have is from 1906, the items are basically the same but the quality of the catalog for scanning purposes is not.  In 1902 they offered a few more sight configurations in their list, but still had the 2,5,6 configuration for sale for the 1890 in 1906.  I imagine Lyman or Winchester put whatever you wanted on the gun up to a point if you asked nice enough.  I included the Lyman pages in case the ledger entry leads you to believe they were all Lyman sights, and for everyone’s reference.

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Brad,

Thank you very much! Your scans were very helpful and I appreciate you taking the time to post them.  The front sight on the rifle is a Lyman #5 Patent Combination Ivory Front Sight (with folding globe) which I mistakenly thought was a Beach sight.  So, instead of being replaced I suspect that is what the ledger is refering to as a “globe sight” since it is one of the combos with the #2 Lyman rear tang sight.  So, the rifle probably has the original sights which makes me very happy.

Again, thanks for the help.

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Jeff

 

PS; 1873man, thanks for correcting me on the spelling of “Beach”. I keep forgetting to give credit to Edward B. Beach and have always thought it was “Beech” until I recently learned the truth.  Old habits are hard to break.

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