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I recently tried to ship ammo only to find Fed Ex and UPS require the ammo to be shipped by an FFL to a FFL.  My FFL charges $ 20 to ship or receive.  How do you go about buying ammo on line without all these new rules.

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jerry thomas said
I recently tried to ship ammo only to find Fed Ex and UPS require the ammo to be shipped by an FFL to a FFL.  My FFL charges $ 20 to ship or receive.  How do you go about buying ammo on line without all these new rules.

  

And $20 is cheap compared to the charge around here, $35.  But I didn’t have to pay that charge on ammo I bought from Target Sports in Sept.  I knew UPS had changed their rules, but that company has always been anti-gun.  The new UPS rules were hashed out here a few months ago in a thread started by Mr. Dunbar.  This came about not because of new federal legislation or ATF rules, but because a few far-left Senators, only about a dozen, wrote a hysterical letter to UPS, which was only too happy to oblige. Another way to cripple exercise of the 2A, without even having to pass any new laws.  As an experiment, why don’t you try ordering from Target Sports?

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So, if I order a box of ammo from Midway, Graf, Natchez and so on, they won’t send it to me, but will require I use a local FFL to receive it?

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steve004 said
So, if I order a box of ammo from Midway, Graf, Natchez and so on, they won’t send it to me, but will require I use a local FFL to receive it?

  

Let’s hope not!  Let’s hope, rather, that the dealer Jerry tried to order from imposed that requirement on their own.  After all, there are many dealers who won’t honor a C&R, & some, even, who won’t even ship an antique except to an FFL.  That’s why I suggested buying from another dealer.  Won’t take long to find out.  Huge mistake to assume dealers are your “friend.”

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Just a few weeks ago I shipped 3 boxes of 401 SLR ammo to a fellow WACA member.  I went to the local UPS store but they couldn’t ship ammo because that branch did not have the “required permit” to ship ammo.  Instead I had to travel to hell (aka Portland, OR) and back to the main UPS hub since it was the only location that had the permit to ship ammo.  It costed me about $15.00 but was only shipping a few hundred miles to SE Oregon.  Not sure if the rules changed since then.

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Just a few weeks ago I shipped 3 boxes of 401 SLR ammo to a fellow WACA member.  I went to the local UPS store but they couldn’t ship ammo because that branch did not have the “required permit” to ship ammo.

  

That so-called “required permit” is not an ATF requirement, it’s UPS pandering to the radical Senators who wrote the letter I mentioned.  Tried to dig up that previous discussion, but not smart enough to find it.

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Clarence, not necessarily true in all cases.  In Kalifornia this is law and I’m not allowed to receive ammo except from a FFL.  Those that follow these laws send it to my FFL and those that don’t, don’t.

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So, if I order a box of ammo from Midway, Graf, Natchez and so on, they won’t send it to me, but will require I use a local FFL to receive it?

  

I have been fighting with Mr Potterfield’s company for a few years about this.  Supposed to be a big NRA and shooting sports supporter. I guess it was too hard for him to support California shooters.  I had been told on several occasions that it was illegal to send ammo to California.  Recently they changed their minds but will only send to a FFL because that has been Kalifornia’s law.  My FFL of choice is on record at some of my usual suppliers.  Your sources may vary.  Federal law only requires how a hazardous material is to be packaged and shipped.

So if your State does not require this learn to shop elsewhere like Ebay or at gun shows.  Hazmat fees and shipping makes it too expensive to buy certain things in small quantities.

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Clarence, not necessarily true in all cases.  In Kalifornia this is law and I’m not allowed to receive ammo except from a FFL.  Those that follow these laws send it to my FFL and those that don’t, don’t.

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So, if I order a box of ammo from Midway, Graf, Natchez and so on, they won’t send it to me, but will require I use a local FFL to receive it?

  

I have been fighting with Mr Potterfield’s company for a few years about this.  Supposed to be a big NRA and shooting sports supporter. I guess it was too hard for him to support California shooters.  I had been told on several occasions that it was illegal to send ammo to California.  Recently they changed their minds but will only send to a FFL because that has been Kalifornia’s law.  My FFL of choice is on record at some of my usual suppliers.  Your sources may vary.  Federal law only requires how a hazardous material is to be packaged and shipped.

So if your State does not require this learn to shop elsewhere like Ebay or at gun shows.  Hazmat fees and shipping makes it too expensive to buy certain things in small quantities.

  

Same here in NY with online ammo purchases required to be shipped to an FFL. 

 

Being a reloader has been hugely beneficial to me in this situation. Although I’m sure they will target we reloaders before too long as well. Make hay while the sun shines and stock up when you can. 

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Here’s the sickening story of how UPS voluntarily caved in to FIVE gun-hating Senators:

https://armedamericannews.org/five-anti-gun-senators-blame-ups-and-other-carriers-for-epidemic-of-gun-violence-2/

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