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June 8, 2014
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JWA said
If there is enough interest, I can cull some of the more informative articles that would be of significance to Winchester collectors and submit them for inclusion in the WACA Winchester Collector Magazine if there is available space.

Regards,

There is definitely enough interest, and space in the Winchester Collector Magazine. When we meet up at the Reno Show, I can help you select articles that would be of great interest for inclusion.

I was aware of the newsletters (Pauline mentioned them in her book), but I was not aware of how many were published and the type of information in them. I would be thrilled to find the complete set of all the newsletters... I am sure that I would be reading them in all of my spare time!

Bert

Unfortunately I don't have a "complete" set, I have 1957-1965. I don't have 1952-1956, or post 1965. Hopefully those archive copies are still intact and someone will come forward with them.

I was planning on going to the August Big Reno show but can shift gears and hit the November show instead if that would be better.

Mark, Photos work for me as long as there is only one button for me to push or someone else does the work Wink

I had forgotten how much Winchester history is being lost every day, simply because it is not written down. I realized when I took the photo today of The Winchester News publication info that Nina Burgarella was a contributor to the newsletter.

For those of you that don't know (since it is not wrtitten down anywhere) Nina C. Burgarella was born Oct. 1915 and died Jan. 2006 at the age of 90.

She was married to Giacomo Burgarella and lived in New Haven while working at Winchester. She retired to California.

The cool thing is that Nina was the Captain of the Winchester "All Secretaries Rifle Shooting Team" which she formed in 1956 with nine other secretaries at Winchester. They competed against male and female teams within Winchester and across the country. After defeating the in-house Winchester (male) teams they defeated the Notre Dame Rifle Team in her first out of state match. She was a formidable shot and was well known in the smallbore competition circles. Before working at Winchester she stated she "was afraid of guns". She competed with an 1885 single shot rifle.

That type of obscure Winchester history is being lost forever and someone should write it down. In addition to Pauline's excellent book we need an in-depth book on the history/biographies of more of the Winchester employees since many of them were the movers and shakers of the period. I am too old to do it but someone should step up before it is too late......

Best Regards,

PS, That info is NOT in the newsletters so please save it for me somewhere as my memory is fading fast. Cry

PPS, I have already instructed my wife to leave the archive copies of the newsletters to the McCracken Research Library (along with a bunch of other documents) when I am gone so no worries the documents will be lost.

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June 8, 2014
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pdog72 said
JWA
Very interesting, any chance you could share where this set came from, and how long you've had them? I just had to ask since everyone seems so intrigued by them.

Also, if you do find the specific article related to the intentional burning of the records it would be quite interesting to read. This seems to be a topic of misunderstanding and curiosity that has generated debate in the past. I've heard a few folks say that the burning may have been intentional, but no one has ever been able to show where this information came from. If possible, it would be nice to see the documentation to put this question to rest.

Thanks for sharing,

Hi Gary,

I am still plowing through the stack to find the article. I know it is in there somewhere as I remember reading it with interest and taking notes. I will post the complete article as soon as I find it.

I have had the archive copies for awhile and bought them from a collector as part of the research I was doing while writing a book on the Winchester Model 69. I think he told me he pulled them from a Winchester dumpster in the 70's/80's but I have heard that story so many times I may be confusing it with something else.

Regards,

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I found one of the articles from November, 1961. Note the card boxes on the aisle behind Herb Daniels.

I think there is another related article but I still have to dig through another 2" of pages.....

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June 9, 2014
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JWA,

I was planning on going to the August Big Reno show but can shift gears and hit the November show instead if that would be better.

I Would very much appreciate it if we could meet up at the November WACA Reno show. I will be in Cody for two weeks in the middle of July, then in Portland for the OAC Winchester show in August, then in Reno for the November WACA show.

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Bert

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Bert H. said
JWA,

I was planning on going to the August Big Reno show but can shift gears and hit the November show instead if that would be better.

I Would very much appreciate it if we could meet up at the November WACA Reno show. I will be in Cody for two weeks in the middle of July, then in Portland for the OAC Winchester show in August, then in Reno for the November WACA show.

Thanks,
Bert

Hi Bert,

I am going to miss the Cody show this year as I had a prior commitment for that weekend but I will be in Cody at McCracken the week of July 21 for some final research on a project. Will you be in town that week?

If not, I can shift my schedule to try and make it to the Nov. show in Reno.

Best Regards,

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pdog72 said
JWA
Very interesting, any chance you could share where this set came from, and how long you've had them? I just had to ask since everyone seems so intrigued by them.

Also, if you do find the specific article related to the intentional burning of the records it would be quite interesting to read. This seems to be a topic of misunderstanding and curiosity that has generated debate in the past. I've heard a few folks say that the burning may have been intentional, but no one has ever been able to show where this information came from. If possible, it would be nice to see the documentation to put this question to rest.

Thanks for sharing,

Hi Gary,

I am still plowing through the stack to find the article. I know it is in there somewhere as I remember reading it with interest and taking notes. I will post the complete article as soon as I find it.

I have had the archive copies for awhile and bought them from a collector as part of the research I was doing while writing a book on the Winchester Model 69. I think he told me he pulled them from a Winchester dumpster in the 70's/80's but I have heard that story so many times I may be confusing it with something else.

Regards,

JWA Did you publish your book on the Model 69 and if so how can I get a copy?

Regards

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June 14, 2014
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AlanD said

JWA Did you publish your book on the Model 69 and if so how can I get a copy?

Regards

AlanD
Sydney

Hi Alan,

It is in the final stages, I have over 600 illustrations and photos and 250 pages written so far. I am on schedule to get it to the publisher by the end of the year. I will post here and on RFC when it goes to print.

There is light at the end of the tunnel!

Best Regards,

PS, I will be in Sydney again in October if you want a preview.

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JWA,

I will not be in Cody that week. I am headed home on the 18th of July (after some research at the Museum). So, it looks like the November WACA Reno show will be the meeting place.

Bert

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No problem, I think I can make that work. Since I was already planning on going to the August show I will just do both.

I will drop you an email as we get closer to November so we can coordinate.

Best Regards,

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JWA said
No problem, I think I can make that work. Since I was already planning on going to the August show I will just do both.

I will drop you an email as we get closer to November so we can coordinate.

Best Regards,

I will look forward to it with great anticipation 8)

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