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I love the old 33wcf. I am thankful for all this info. 

Bert, what Winchester is on the horizon for your return to the .33 WCF?  Ordinarily I would guess another 1886 but I’ve heard [albeit from questionable sources] a few 1885 models were chambered for it. 

My new-to-me 1886/33 has been shipped. I’ve got adequate supplies of 3031 and 4350 but need to lay in some bullets. Fuller 450 recommends Hawk. 

Lovely rifle, there!  My “shooter” is a deluxe but with holes added for a receiver sight which I DO USE.  I’ve added an aperture front sight as well.  Tim

tim tomlinson said
Lovely rifle, there!  My “shooter” is a deluxe but with holes added for a receiver sight which I DO USE.  I’ve added an aperture front sight as well.  Tim
  

Thanks Tim. It is one of my favorites! I actually still hunt with it as it is dead on and very comfortable to carry and shoot. 

Concerning penalty boxes:

I have personal and professional experience in this matter. 

1. What the spousal unit does not know does not prey upon its mind. 

1a.  Not every account should be joint. 

1b.  NEVER leave the  C&R register lying around for spousal inspection. Alternately, maintain a decoy register.

1c. “Swapping” is lower.on the Spousal Index of Evil than “Wasting OUR money on ANOTHER old gun.”  Swapping can be defended without mentioning cash boot. Example: “I will swap my rusty pocket knife for your 3rd Model 1873 Deluxe Sporting Rifle [and an unmentioned amount of dollars.]”

2. Unless one makes the Prime Error of educating the spousal unit as to differences, one Winchester looks much like another. 

3. While this may at first seem a breach of marital vows,  a vintage Winchester is an inanimate object,  with more inherent utility and investment value than a golf club or — at the extreme, a bass boat.  It is not remotely comparable to a side chick.  A close reading of your vows will usually not require the sharing of every market investment decision. CAUTION: IF CONFRONTED, DO NOT ASSERT THIS ARGUMENT. Reserve it for the courthouse, where it cannot result in thrown objects.

4. Takedown Winchesters provide a unique advantage. If you are still in harness, consider a large (measured) briefcase or soft tool carrier. 

5. Large gunsafes are preferable to even the most secure display cabinets because they discourage counting. 

6. Gunsafes should be located on an inside wall near the back door. 

7. Reserve and utilize a generous portion of gun money for Spousal Bling. Buy some really good stuff and give it on an un-birthday, without drama. “I saw this and thought it would suit you” is more than enough. While painful, think of this as insurance against a future day of “discussion” about your collecting hobby. 

These rules were compiled over decades from gun collecting clients, not all of whom are deceased from marital violence or from being eaten by rats while living under a bridge. 

I’m a confirmed bachelor so take this advice with at least a few grains of salt. First, keep a well-worn case in your vehicle to assist in smuggling your latest score. This also works for single guys as sometimes the poor little waif who followed you home from the Orphanage needs protection from any bumps on the way home. Failing that, make it worth that trip to the penalty box! From what I’ve seen Bert’s “transgressions” are opportunities that certainly needed to be acted upon even if the consequences may be unpleasant for awhile. I hope the “penalty box” is in close proximity to the gun safe.

I tried the unexpected gift thing once with unfavorable consequences. She was certain it was to make up for some transgression and it frustrated her considerably because she could not find out what I had done…because I hadn’t. Was sorry to see her go, she was proof skinny girls sometimes CAN cook!

Mike

Zebulon said
Concerning penalty boxes:
I have personal and professional experience in this matter. 
1. What the spousal unit does not know does not prey upon its mind. 
1a.  Not every account should be joint. 
1b.  NEVER leave the  C&R register lying around for spousal inspection. Alternately, maintain a decoy register.
1c. “Swapping” is lower.on the Spousal Index of Evil than “Wasting OUR money on ANOTHER old gun.”  Swapping can be defended without mentioning cash boot. Example: “I will swap my rusty pocket knife for your 3rd Model 1873 Deluxe Sporting Rifle [and an unmentioned amount of dollars.]”
2. Unless one makes the Prime Error of educating the spousal unit as to differences, one Winchester looks much like another. 
3. While this may at first seem a breach of marital vows,  a vintage Winchester is an inanimate object,  with more inherent utility and investment value than a golf club or — at the extreme, a bass boat.  It is not remotely comparable to a side chick.  A close reading of your vows will usually not require the sharing of every market investment decision. CAUTION: IF CONFRONTED, DO NOT ASSERT THIS ARGUMENT. Reserve it for the courthouse, where it cannot result in thrown objects.
4. Takedown Winchesters provide a unique advantage. If you are still in harness, consider a large (measured) briefcase or soft tool carrier. 
5. Large gunsafes are preferable to even the most secure display cabinets because they discourage counting. 
6. Gunsafes should be located on an inside wall near the back door. 
7. Reserve and utilize a generous portion of gun money for Spousal Bling. Buy some really good stuff and give it on an un-birthday, without drama. “I saw this and thought it would suit you” is more than enough. While painful, think of this as insurance against a future day of “discussion” about your collecting hobby. 
These rules were compiled over decades from gun collecting clients, not all of whom are deceased from marital violence or from being eaten by rats while living under a bridge. 
  

VERY GOOD!

A few thoughts come to mind.

Unless your spouse also collects vintage firearms, or at least vintage something no longer manufactured, they don’t understand issues such as condition, rarity, or one of a kind.

They never quite really understand the concept of a live auction.  When your lot comes up, you have to be ready to bid NOW.  An hour or two beforehand doesn’t work if you want to bid live and not leave a left bid.  Bidding when it’s convenient doesn’t work, either, as you often miss your lot.  Also, there’s a place for speaker phones but bidding in a live auction isn’t one of them.

Acquisition of firearms and integration into the household is best done in stages unless no one is home.  Sometimes that means driving around with a fine firearm for a day when you would rather have it safely locked away at home.  Despite making you uncomfortable, it is the cost of doing business.  Sometimes, if you are lucky, you can quickly stash it in the garage to await incorporation into the household, when no one is home.  When the garage door is open, it’s best to start the lawnmower and mow a strip or two of higher grass or to pop the hood of the car with windshield wiper fluid in hand and top that off.  To distract attention from the real motive of opening and entering a garage.  It’s also best to have a “safe” spot to stash something quickly.  Fine Winchester on bare concrete is generally not an ideal option.

A handful of gun cases in a pike serves a really handy purpose.  A firearm can be hidden in the pile until proper integration into the household.

Bert, that 1893 is easily worth six months in the penalty box.

I assume you’re using a physical red paper background; either that or you have a much steadier hand than I can muster in Photoshop to select the outline of the gun for a layer interposed over a solid color layer. I’ve managed it with brides and Irish setters but not for inanimate objects as complex as a Winchester pump shotgun. 

What lighting setup are you using? I can see a few mild glare spots but no blowouts that would hide detail. I can see no shadows on the background paper.