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September 22, 2011
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As most of us dabble with Winchesters that are at least a century old by now, or will be, in the next few decades, I would like to think that legislators would leave us long arm C & R or antique hobbyists alone, but I’ve been blindsided before.
Anything come to mind in the next few years or decades that could be a threat to either collecting these firearms or feeding them a steady diet of their favorite ammunition?
I am looking at what others might see coming at the national or state level, not a political argument or debate.
December 12, 2019
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It is difficult to respond or offer an opinion without becoming at least somewhat ‘political’, but here goes:
I see changes only in a negative direction for gun owners and gun collectors in the near and mid future. The folks making and interpreting laws are for the most part ignorant of our plight and our intentions as collectors of old and antique firearms. Their primary and in most cases only goal is the further restriction of firearms and ammunition purchases, sales, possession and distribution.
Once they pass legislation which in any way further restricts firearm ownership, they don’t bother with watching or reacting to the true outcomes or consequences. Instead, they move on to other pressing issues such as daylight saving.
Nevada Paul
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March 20, 2010
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For what its worth, I think what we have seen happening in certain states in recent years will likely remain the norm. There are several 2A Supreme Court rulings on the books that have helped keep some of this nonsense at bay (District of Columbia v. Heller, McDonald v. City of Chicago, New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen. The legal scholars out there can correct me if Im wrong, but I dont believe the 2A has yet been “incorporated” to the Constitution, as have other Bill of Rights Amendments, making it subject of animosities and challenges by the gun grabbers regarding original intent, or their resorting other subverted means as we are aware. In the end, it will depend on the future courts and how they sway. We need a more Clarence Thomas minded justices, based in original intent, and rid the courts of the “living constitution” minded justices.
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March 20, 2010
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Nevada Paul said
Instead, they move on to other pressing issues such as daylight saving.
No kidding, totally ineffective bunch of folks.
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April 1, 2005
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All these new Senators and House Members will have so much on their plate it is hard to fathom them messing with a bunch of old guys and their hobby. However, you just never know. The safest place to be may be 19th century models with antique serial numbers. For you guys that want the best shot for appreciation, that is the place to be anyway. Bert, I am sorry about the lack of a single shot in this photo – it is not that I don’t like them because I do!
January 20, 2023
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1892takedown said
For what its worth, I think what we have seen happening in certain states in recent years will likely remain the norm. There are several 2A Supreme Court rulings on the books that have helped keep some of this nonsense at bay (District of Columbia v. Heller, McDonald v. City of Chicago, New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen. The legal scholars out there can correct me if Im wrong, but I dont believe the 2A has yet been “incorporated” to the Constitution, as have other Bill of Rights Amendments, making it subject of animosities and challenges by the gun grabbers regarding original intent, or their resorting other subverted means as we are aware. In the end, it will depend on the future courts and how they sway. We need a more Clarence Thomas minded justices, based in original intent, and rid the courts of the “living constitution” minded justices.
Chris, McDonald v. City of Chicago (2010), reaffirmed in Caetano v. Massachusetts (2016) and New York State Rifle & Pistol Ass’n, Inc. v. Bruen (2022), made clear the Second Amendment recognized an inherent, individual right to keep and bear arms and that such right was enforceable against the States and lesser jurisdictions, through the doctrine of selective incorporation under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment of the U. S, Constitution.
- Bill
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May 2, 2009
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The only thing I read this morning is the incoming House Judiary chair wants to do a universal gun registry.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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March 20, 2010
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Zebulon said
Chris, McDonald v. City of Chicago (2010), reaffirmed in Caetano v. Massachusetts (2016) and New York State Rifle & Pistol Ass’n, Inc. v. Bruen (2022), made clear the Second Amendment recognized an inherent, individual right to keep and bear arms and that such right was enforceable against the States and lesser jurisdictions, through the doctrine of selective incorporation under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment of the U. S, Constitution.
Bill,
Hahaha
, I was waiting with bated breath for you to chime in. Thanks for the clarification.
Chris
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September 22, 2011
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Burt Humphrey said
All these new Senators and House Members will have so much on their plate it is hard to fathom them messing with a bunch of old guys and their hobby. However, you just never know. The safest place to be may be 19th century models with antique serial numbers. For you guys that want the best shot for appreciation, that is the place to be anyway. Bert, I am sorry about the lack of a single shot in this photo – it is not that I don’t like them because I do!
But will it? I like the pre 1899 exemption, I think it should be for anything prior to WWII. I’m always afraid the pre 1899 thing might disappear someday, even at the drop of a hat. Sneaky folks do sneaky things…
July 17, 2012
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I am going to start collecting Winchester hammers instead. If it comes to war you can just call me the “Blacksmith of Brandywine”…..
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November 19, 2006
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mrcvs said
As most of us dabble with Winchesters that are at least a century old by now, or will be, in the next few decades, I would like to think that legislators would leave us long arm C & R or antique hobbyists alone, but I’ve been blindsided before.
Anything come to mind in the next few years or decades that could be a threat to either collecting these firearms or feeding them a steady diet of their favorite ammunition?
I am looking at what others might see coming at the national or state level, not a political argument or debate.
Ian –
I first read this as, “… most of us who dabble in Winchesters are at least a century old…”
Actually, possibly not too far off 
November 19, 2006
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JWA said
I am going to start collecting Winchester hammers instead. If it comes to war you can just call me the “Blacksmith of Brandywine”…..
I’m no expert on these, but to my knowledge, all Winchester hammers are post-1898. So be cautious.
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