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May 23, 2009
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Nice!
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December 9, 2002
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Bob,
That’s very interesting to see!
I’m sure that I’m not the only one wondering if the pack is still intact, or broken up, and being sold off, one at a time, individually for a profit!
Anthony
March 25, 2024
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Anthony what did i miss about the 66 win center fire ammo gene66
March 25, 2024
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Anthony I sent you a message before I noticed the ward auction in your post I called their number but too late left message they probably sold it by now
too bad I never seem to be on time gen66
December 9, 2002
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Gene,
Not sure what message you sent, as I was on vacation with the family, but nothing in my, PM’S! I’m thinking maybe you we’re implying here on the forum.
Is this what you missed?
1873man said
Talked to Ray Giles today at Tulsa about Winchester 66 CF and he told me what he knew. He heard that a Winchester employee had a box of Winchester 66 CF with mimeographed label which he said would have been around in that time period. The employee collected boxes for the 40 years he work at Winchester and then for 20 years after he retired. When he died, his wife didn’t sell the collection for another 10 years. Ray bought the collection but there wasn’t a 66 CF box.
Bob
Ray emailed me today with a picture of the 44 CF for the 66 box he told me about at the Tulsa show.
gene66,
Is this what you missed? The Ward’s auction ended a couple weeks ago. It was posted on their site for about a month. I think I bailed out on that one about half way or so. I know where two others are, but they are asking double what that one sold for at auction. Crazy!
Anthony
March 25, 2024
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Anthony it was the post on the wards auction that I missed still looking for CF 44 cartridge have a great 4th of July gene66
December 9, 2002
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Gotchya!!! 
Anthony
December 9, 2002
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Anthony said
I chose to re open this great post, and informative gathering, on the .44 Henry Flat C.F. cartridge. In reference to Tim’s great article in the Collector in the 2015 Spring edition, he details the cartridge in comparison to it’s predecessor, the .44 Henry Flat cartridge.I’ll post some more .44 Henry Flat C.F. cartridges;
The first cartridge is the French made, S.F.M.(explained above, very well, in a previous post by Maverick)
The second is a, “Function Dummy”.
Third is a, “Salesman Sample”, probably from a salesman’s, or Jobbers kit. Which shows the one hole in it, from the kit vs. the the two hole Board Dummy. This cartridge contains the wood rod inside the case for mounting.
The last two, have No head stamp, and are plain. As WRACo mfg. but at different times as the heads are different. As the fourth cartridge is probably the earlier one as it’s a little more rounded, compared to the fifth one, which is last, and a flatter base.
These four are an extension of the two WRACo mfg. cartridges, as three appear to be the rounded based cartridges, and the other, the flatter based, and probably mfg. later than the rounded based cartridges.
All of the above cartridges, have been inspected and confirmed, over time by some of the most formidable cartridge collectors world wide, including the late Dan Shuey.
Anthony
November 19, 2006
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Tony –
Great post! Very interesting examples.
I like to imagine walking into a hardware store 160 years ago and seeing brand new full boxes of these. What a sight that would be 
December 9, 2002
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Thanks Steve,
I am in agreement with you also.
Gene,
I sent you a PM.
Anthony
December 9, 2002
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Gene,
I sent you a Private Message!(PM)
Thanks,
Anthony
March 25, 2024
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Anthony where do i look for the pm message never used that option please advise thanks gene66
March 31, 2009
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gene66 said
Anthony where do i look for the pm message never used that option please advise thanks gene66
Gene, top right of the page. Inbox.
March 25, 2024
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Anthony found it sent you pm thanks
March 25, 2024
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Chuck did you post about 1866 gene 66
March 31, 2009
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gene66 said
Chuck did you post about 1866 gene 66
I posted where the Inbox is for the PM’s.
December 9, 2002
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Maverick said
Anthony,That has to be one of the most complete 44 Henry Centerfire collections a man could ask for. The Function Dummy and Salesman Dummy have to be the cream of the crop and very very rare. I doubt there ever was a “Board Dummy” ever made. If so, I don’t know what cartridge board it would have gone with.
It is interesting seeing the French made cartridge next to the WRACo and their noticeable differences.
Thanks for sharing your collection!
Sincerely,
Maverick
With the updated information, of the .44 C.F. Cartridge being on the Winchester Rimfire Cartridge board, 1874, and the bottom vertical cartridge identified, as a .44 C.F. I think it might just be possible that a Board Dummy might exist!
Anthony
May 23, 2009
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Except that board dummy is as is it stated on the board, a “Center Fire Winchester Rifle Model 1873.” a.k.a. the 44-40 W.C.F.
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