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WTB: Winchester A5 Scope
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GA
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February 21, 2019 - 3:36 am

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I’m interested in purchasing an A5 scope – what do you have?

 

Bill

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February 22, 2019 - 12:16 am

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Big Larry has a couple of them that he’s looking to move the last time I checked.  I have a couple, but they are not in high condition.  Some other members might have some as well.  

James

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February 22, 2019 - 2:09 pm

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Bill77 said
I’m interested in purchasing an A5 scope 
  

Which puts you, unfortunately, in direct competition with all the people willing to spend big dough building a fake WWI sniper-rifle.

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February 22, 2019 - 4:35 pm

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Bill77 said
I’m interested in purchasing an A5 scope – what do you have?

 

Bill  

I have a nice one for $1,000.   Big LarrySmileSmileSmile

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February 22, 2019 - 5:07 pm
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Joe Salter has one on GB: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/800127639

 

Steve

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February 22, 2019 - 5:14 pm

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Bull, Joe Salter also has one on his site with sale ending 02/24/19. Don’t know if it’s the same one advertised as referenced on previous post on Gun Broker?

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February 22, 2019 - 5:34 pm
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25-35 said
Bull, Joe Salter also has one on his site with sale ending 02/24/19. Don’t know if it’s the same one advertised as referenced on previous post on Gun Broker?  

I believe it is (the link on his site takes you to the GB listing).

 

Steve

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February 22, 2019 - 7:03 pm

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It appears to be a Lyman 5-A. The mounts are not Winchester.  Big Larry

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February 23, 2019 - 12:36 am

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I have that on my watch list.

I just went back and looked closely and he states

front is original rear” lyman replacement with a frozen windage knob”

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Kingston, WA
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February 23, 2019 - 12:52 am

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Big Larry said
It appears to be a Lyman 5-A. The mounts are not Winchester.  Big Larry  

Larry,

The auction picture clearly show that it is marked “A5”.

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February 23, 2019 - 1:00 am

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Bert, the rear mount is described as being a Lyman with a frozen windage knob.  

James

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February 23, 2019 - 2:22 am

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jwm94 said
Bert, the rear mount is described as being a Lyman with a frozen windage knob.  

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That does not change the fact that the telescope itself is a Winchester A5.

Bert

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February 23, 2019 - 2:54 am

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Bert H. said

That does not change the fact that the telescope itself is a Winchester A5.

Bert  

It takes away 80% of the value of the scope, even if it is a A5. The correct type of mounts are the “Grasshopper” type. I have two A5’s and one 5A. I also have a very low numbered Fecker with a Winchester mount, and it is supposed to have the Winchester mount. Big Larry

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February 23, 2019 - 4:31 am

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Big Larry said

The correct type of mounts are the “Grasshopper” type.

Lyman even continued using the same mount (probably inherited from WRA) on early production 5As–they are clearly illustrated in Lyman’s first 5A brochure. 

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February 23, 2019 - 4:54 am

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Big Larry said

It takes away 80% of the value of the scope, even if it is a A5. The correct type of mounts are the “Grasshopper” type. I have two A5’s and one 5A. I also have a very low numbered Fecker with a Winchester mount, and it is supposed to have the Winchester mount. Big Larry  

I disagree that the Lyman mount takes away 80% of the value of the telescope.  More importantly, I will ask that you read the opening post in this topic… the person was asking for help locating an A5 scope to purchase.

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February 23, 2019 - 2:32 pm

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Bert H. said

I disagree that the Lyman mount takes away 80% of the value of the telescope.

80% may be excessive, but considering the uniqueness of the rear mount (nothing like it before or since), & the very great difficulty of finding an original floating around “loose,” I think the replacement mount should be considered as grave a defect as, for ex., a rifle with a much later replacement barrel.  I doubt that it will be, however, because the online auction world is full of uninformed bidders with plenty of dough, but no time even for rudimentary research.

Several yrs ago, an ebay seller stuck one of those “No. 8” Winchester scopes built in the late ’30s into an original A5 box & sold it for $1200!!!  I remember it well, because I tried to buy the box separately, but of course, no dice.

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February 23, 2019 - 4:01 pm

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Bert H. said

That does not change the fact that the telescope itself is a Winchester A5.

Bert  

Totally agree, Bert.  The only thing it does do is allow the readers of the thread to understand that the scopes rear mount is not a Winchester part.

 

James

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February 23, 2019 - 4:34 pm

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clarence said

Big Larry said
The correct type of mounts are the “Grasshopper” type.

Lyman even continued using the same mount (probably inherited from WRA) on early production 5As–they are clearly illustrated in Lyman’s first 5A brochure.   

This is true. I have seen some early 5A’s with Grasshopper mounts. The Lymans were serialized and the Winchesters were not. You used to be able to letter these scopes too.  Big Larry

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February 23, 2019 - 4:36 pm

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Bert H. said

I disagree that the Lyman mount takes away 80% of the value of the telescope.  More importantly, I will ask that you read the opening post in this topic… the person was asking for help locating an A5 scope to purchase.

Bert  

I answered that post in #4 post. I have two. One for $1,000. 100% original, and a 98%er.  Big Larry

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February 23, 2019 - 4:38 pm

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Great points made by Larry, Bert, and Clarence.  From my perspective based primarily on Clarence’s insight, if Winchester rear mounts were easy to get, I’d place a value of about 30% on one.  However, should I add in Stroebel’s estimated price for a tube and No. 2 mount in 100% condition, I’d have to up my estimate to 40%, since Stroebel’s work is probably considered the Bible in this field.  Now, should one value their time at all, it’s easy to understand why a very high estimate like Larry’s-80% would come into play.

James

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