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Selling two nice Lyman 1A sights
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Larry,

I’ve been looking for a Lyman No. 1 Combination Tang Sight- Second Variation with a “D” code marked on the underside of the sight base, for my circa 1900 Model 1892, 32-20, pistol grip semi deluxe. It will have the hairspring locking device as apposed to the later thumb locking device. Has to be in 90% or better condition.

Do you have anything?

Thanks,

Al

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tionesta1 said
It will have the hairspring locking device as apposed to the later thumb locking device.

Impossible–no Lyman sight of any kind incorporated a hairspring, which is a component of watches, as Google can explain further.  #1 & 2 sights were built around what Lyman called a spring-bolt

Very fair prices, by the way.

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clarence said

tionesta1 said
It will have the hairspring locking device as apposed to the later thumb locking device.

Impossible–no Lyman sight of any kind incorporated a hairspring, which is a component of watches, as Google can explain further.  #1 & 2 sights were built around what Lyman called a spring-bolt

Very fair prices, by the way.  

I don’t know the correct terminology. It’s the sight without the locking lever, and with the small eyepiece that flips out.

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Don’t feel bad, I’ve never heard it called a spring bolt either. I always called it the donut spring.

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tionesta1 said
Larry,

I’ve been looking for a Lyman No. 1 Combination Tang Sight- Second Variation with a “D” code marked on the underside of the sight base, for my circa 1900 Model 1892, 32-20, pistol grip semi deluxe. It will have the hairspring locking device as apposed to the later thumb locking device. Has to be in 90% or better condition.

Do you have anything?

Thanks,

Al  

Sorry Al. But no. Big Larry

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1873man said
Don’t feel bad, I’ve never heard it called a spring bolt either.
 

No one who found this ridiculous error in Stroebel’s sight book, where it originated, should feel bad.  A reader of that book would naturally assume the author had researched Lyman’s patents to find out what the part was called.

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Don’t beat the book. It is way better than the little brown Winchester book. A lot of time and effort went into that book, and I personally think Stroebel did a great job. My copy is all torn up with use.  Big Larry

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Big Larry said
Don’t beat the book. It is way better than the little brown Winchester book. A lot of time and effort went into that book, and I personally think Stroebel did a great job. My copy is all torn up with use.  Big Larry  

Larry, regardless of how much “time & effort,” should such errors just be ignored & perpetuated?  Can’t believe you think so.

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[email protected] said Al,

Did you see the one on Ebay, a few weeks back? I think they were asking $350.00. Not sure if it was 90 % or not, but it looked pretty nice! It had the “D” code under neath. Smile

For that price, it should have been new in the box!  It’s one of the most common variants. 

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Maybe the Gold Plating was washed off! LOL!!! Not to hijack this post, but on the second variation, why the loop at the head of the so called “Spring Bolt”?  

Because that’s what makes it a spring–if taken out, the two “legs” have to be compressed to force it back in the base.

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The “spring bolt” is compressed as the stem is pivoted.  When the stem is in the proper upright position the spring opens up and locks the stem in it’s upright position.  Works on a similar principal as a safety pin does.  There is a notch in side the stems center that the spring bolt “springs” into.  RDB

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tionesta1 said
Larry,

I’ve been looking for a Lyman No. 1 Combination Tang Sight- Second Variation with a “D” code marked on the underside of the sight base, for my circa 1900 Model 1892, 32-20, pistol grip semi deluxe. It will have the hairspring locking device as apposed to the later thumb locking device. Has to be in 90% or better condition.

Do you have anything?

Thanks,

Al  

Al,

Did you see the one on Ebay, a few weeks back? I think they were asking $350.00. Not sure if it was 90 % or not, but it looked pretty nice! It had the “D” code under neath. Smile  

No, I didn’t see that one.  Thanks.

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limestone, I believe you aren’t getting the simpleness of the spring bolt’s operation.  Look at a safety pin from the side (ignore the locking clasp).  See the hole where the springing action is made?  That is in conjunction with the ring that sticks out on the side of the sight.  Two internal “ears” on the end of the spring bolt lock into the reliefs milled inside of the stems pivot hole.  The locking nut on the opposite side of the ring is used for adjusting the angle of the stem for final upright position.  I hope this makes some sense.  RDB

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rogertherelic said
The locking nut on the opposite side of the ring is used for adjusting the angle of the stem for final upright position. 

If the loop has any “purpose,” it’s as an easy way to make this adjustment–by running a nail, screwdriver, etc through the loop to twist it; not my idea–explained in early catalogs.

By the way, what’s the “purpose” of the ring at one end of safety pins?  To run a string through if someone wants to make a safety pin necklace?  I seriously doubt it–it’s just the way the wire has to be twisted to make a spring out of a piece of straight wire.

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