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For Sale Winchester Model 1894 Full Patch
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February 1, 2025 - 7:08 pm
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For Sale, one Full, unsealed Winchester Model 1894 Full Patch, .30 WCF caliber original UN-fired full box of ammunition.

Great display item. page #177 in Giles & Shuey book. page 177, circa. 1915-1916

Box is in fair condition, and ammo is intact and good condition.

asking $125 shipped.

 

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Selling this for the widow, of a recently passed late friend. As she is getting up in years herself, her husband was 80 yrs old.

Ray Giles states this box is a little hard to come by, as his, and the late Dan Shuey’s book, states it a R-3 Rating, (Seldom encountered and Hard to Find)!

 

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Tony –

Certainly a collector item – cool that all the cases and primers match – no mixed rounds!  Alternatively, perhaps the full patch rounds would also be good for elephant (head shot of course)?  

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Winchester made some in 255 gr too.

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Chuck said
Winchester made some in 255 gr too.

 Do you mean for .38-55 etc.?

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SOLD!!!!!!

 

Thanks Bill

 

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Chuck said
Winchester made some in 255 gr too.

  

steve004 said

Chuck said

Winchester made some in 255 gr too.

 Do you mean for .38-55 etc.?

  

We’re aware the .30 wcf was a necked down version of the .38-55 case. This box 170 grain, and we’ve seen the 160 grain also.

I wasn’t aware of the 255 gr.!

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steve004 said

Chuck said

Winchester made some in 255 gr too.

 Do you mean for .38-55 etc.?

  

Yes. Stupid me. 

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Not a problem Chuck. I’ve been there before myself and you’ve set me straight, along with others. I’m sure I’ll be there again, so keep an eye on me! LOL! Laugh

 

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I have seen boxes of full-patched bullets in various vintage calibers – such as the .38-55 and I think quite a few others.  What were people mainly using them for back then?

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Steve,

I wish I could answer you’re question. I’m not sure!

 

SOLD!!!

Funds secured, and delivered!

 

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steve004 said
I have seen boxes of full-patched bullets in various vintage calibers – such as the .38-55 and I think quite a few others.  What were people mainly using them for back then?

  

I would assume the U.S. Army bought 30 WCF full-patch ammo go with the 1,800 1894 carbines (aka Spruce Guns) sent to the Pacific NW during WW1, but unsure about other calibers.

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deerhunter said

steve004 said

I have seen boxes of full-patched bullets in various vintage calibers – such as the .38-55 and I think quite a few others.  What were people mainly using them for back then?

  

I would assume the U.S. Army bought 30 WCF full-patch ammo go with the 1,800 1894 carbines (aka Spruce Guns) sent to the Pacific NW during WW1, but unsure about other calibers.

Don

  

Don, 

That makes reasonable sense to me. Pretty neat if this type of ammo and box was intended for that purpose.

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Full Patch is just the original term for Full Metal Jacket, it has nothing to with paper patching.

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Steve,

That’s a great point. I really am guilty of not paying attention, knowing, and researching what the term really meant. I full can relate, understanding the, “paper patched”, terminology, as that’s how I relate in my mind, but I never really thought about a full metal jacketed bullet being a, “full patch” bullet.

I just never did.

 

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LOL Anthony, me too, I always learn something new when I open the forum.

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