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Winchester Medium Range Vernier Tang Sight
August 24, 2021
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I have a couple of questions about these.  Would you ever see one on an 1885 or would they used Long Range on them?  What exactly is medium range, I know caliber would be a factor, but in general would they be like 300-400 yards?  Final question, were these actually made by Winchester or by Axtel?

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August 24, 2021
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Mid-range was standard on Special Single Shot & Schuetzen models but could be ordered on any model.  (Most Schuetzen matches were shot at 200 yds.)  Long range at that time would be considered beyond about 500 yds, closer to 700-1000, which were the target distances at the Creedmoor range, though there was no exact definition of the term.  Shooters in those days hadn’t had their eyes ruined by cell-phones & could see further.

Axtel?

August 24, 2021
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Axtel was not a sight maker in the old days. They make modern reproduction sights.

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I am of the impression that Winchester used “Outside” contractors to make the sights they sold.  Is that correct?  RDB

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That is what I understand also.

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rogertherelic said
I am of the impression that Winchester used “Outside” contractors to make the sights they sold.  Is that correct?  RDB  

Winchester & Marlin thick-base sights are identical except for the hole spacing, so they must have come from the same maker.  Maybe by the time the thin-base sight came along, a different maker was involved–possibly Winchester.

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clarence said

rogertherelic said
I am of the impression that Winchester used “Outside” contractors to make the sights they sold.  Is that correct?  RDB  

Winchester & Marlin thick-base sights are identical except for the hole spacing, so they must have come from the same maker.  Maybe by the time the thin-base sight came along, a different maker was involved–possibly Winchester.  

Would it be safe to say  that Winchester took over production of the Long range and Venier sights with the ’86 patent date that is found stamped on the bottom of the “newer” thin based tang sights?

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Manuel said

Would it be safe to say  that Winchester took over production of the Long range and Venier sights with the ’86 patent date that is found stamped on the bottom of the “newer” thin based tang sights?  

Maybe, but I’d be very surprised if that patent had anything specifically to do with the thin base & was originally obtained for use in some other application. 

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