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What receiver peep sight will match the holes on my 1894?
November 26, 2020
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I have a 1912 1894 that has two holes drilled for a long-lost receiver mounted peep sight, and would like to find a period sight to replace it.

The holes are .40″ apart, about .7″ from the top of the receiver.  I can’t determine the exact thread size, but it seems to be between 6-32 and 6-40.

I can’t find mounting specs or screw sizes online, and I’m hoping someone here can help at least identify sight makers or eliminate makers.

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Dorsey

November 26, 2020
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Dorsey-

It appears your receiver was drilled on the same pattern as later 94’s and should accommodate the Williams and Lyman receiver sights designed for those models. An older Lyman sight wouldn’t look terribly out of place on your rifle, IMHO. 

 

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TXGunNut said
An older Lyman sight wouldn’t look terribly out of place on your rifle, IMHO.

May take a good deal of searching to find one, unlike rcvr sights for bolt actions, & certain other guns; but not many ’94s ever had them.  Williams is still making them, but a new sight would be an eyesore.

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Yes, I have Williams FP sights on a few of my later guns and they would look out of place on an older gun. An older Lyman sight won’t be correct but I believe it’s what Dorsey is looking for. Did they quit making the Lyman receiver sight? I think the model number would be 66A.

 

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A Lyman No. 56A or a No. 66A. My choice would be the No. 56A. I believe the screws are 6-48. Another option is a Redfield No. 70E or No. 80E.

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Bert H. said
A Lyman No. 56A or a No. 66A. My choice would be the No. 56A. I believe the screws are 6-48. Another option is a Redfield No. 70E or No. 80E.
Bert  

First thing is to find out what sight the hole spacing is correct for.  Lyman catalogs don’t show this measurement, but Williams is still in prod. & I’d bet anyone putting a rcvr sight on a 94 would pick the cheapest one available–Williams.

I’d forget this aggravation, plug the holes with screws that match the finish, & mount a tang sight. 

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clarence said

First thing is to find out what sight the hole spacing is correct for.  Lyman catalogs don’t show this measurement, but Williams is still in prod. & I’d bet anyone putting a rcvr sight on a 94 would pick the cheapest one available–Williams.

I’d forget this aggravation, plug the holes with screws that match the finish, & mount a tang sight.   

Clarence,

The Williams receiver mounted peep sight has the exact same hole spacing as the Lyman and Redfield receiver sights made for the lever-action rifles.

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Bert H. said

Clarence,

The Williams receiver mounted peep sight has the exact same hole spacing as the Lyman and Redfield receiver sights made for the lever-action rifles.

Bert  

I’m amazed by such common sense!  Most manufacturers go out of their way to make sure their parts aren’t interchangeable!

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clarence said

I’m amazed by such common sense!  Most manufacturers go out of their way to make sure their parts aren’t interchangeable!  

I would not attribute it to “common sense”.  Instead, it was Winchester who forced them to all be the same when they began drilling & tapping the receivers for peep sights beginning in 1934.  All of the various sight makers had to make the sights fit the holes that Winchester provided.

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Bert H. said

I would not attribute it to “common sense”.  Instead, it was Winchester who forced them to all be the same when they began drilling & tapping the receivers for peep sights beginning in 1934.  All of the various sight makers had to make the sights fit the holes that Winchester provided.  

Wow–even more surprised that the factory was D&T receivers as early as ’34, when (I thought!) tang sights were still the first choice for any (smart) shooter wanting a peep sight. 

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It began with the Model 64 Rifles in August 1934, followed by the Model 71 rifles in the mid 1940s, and finally, it was a standard feature on all of the Model 94 Carbines beginning in 1952.

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clarence said

First thing is to find out what sight the hole spacing is correct for.  Lyman catalogs don’t show this measurement, but Williams is still in prod. & I’d bet anyone putting a rcvr sight on a 94 would pick the cheapest one available–Williams.

I’d forget this aggravation, plug the holes with screws that match the finish, & mount a tang sight.   

I measured a Williams sight in my parts box as the Williams and Lyman sites are silent on the subject of screw spacIng. Personally I’d prefer a tang sight but again, that was’t the OP’s request.

 

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November 27, 2020
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The Williams side-mount receiver sight that fit the factory holes was/is the – FP 94/36 or 5D 94/36 (cheaper model) it’s still available to my knowledge.

These sights were made for both the Winchester and Marlin as the spacing was the same.

And although a 1912 vintage rifle was not D&T, most gunsmiths used the Williams/Lyman spacing – but you’ll have to check.

Also a period correct Lyman side mount sight might look the best.

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Thanks for this very useful information, except Clarence who seems to have missed the point entirely.

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