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July 22, 2022 - 1:32 pm
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express-sight.jpgImage EnlargerPurchased a really odd 3 leaf express sight last week, haven’t received it yet though. Came off an old 1894 rifle. It is 4.5 inches long overall, standard 3/8 dovetail, 3 leaves pretty much identical to the 34 express sight commonly found on Winchesters. But center of sight has a slot milled for a factory built elevator, rectangular with three steps in it. Will post pics when I get it but have never seen one like it. No identifying marks apart from the yardage markings on the leaves. Just wondered if anyone has seen or heard of similar sights?

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July 24, 2022 - 5:09 pm
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Added pic, might save 1000 words.

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Need a pic from underneath… without the elevator when it arrives. The front is very much like a Marlin 1888 “Rocky Mountain” rifle sight… it’s different…

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Will post pics when I get it. Could be off a Marlin at some point.

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mike webb said
 Could be off a Marlin at some point.

 

Not in any Marlin catalog I’ve seen, or Dutcher’s Ballard book.  I’d check Brophy’s Marlin book.  It does have the long base of a Marlin Rocky Mt., but there the similarity ends.

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OK. Good to know.

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I’m curious to see if there is any indication of welding… the “marriage” of a marlin Rocky Mtn. front end and a the back end of an express sight.   The elevation grooves on the body would do a good job of hiding the weld on top, most don’t try to hide their work on hidden areas….  wouldn’t be the first time someone tried to “improve” a sight… FWIW my opinion and $10 might get you a cup of coffee 

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I’m curious to see if there is any indication of welding… the “marriage” of a marlin Rocky Mtn. front end and a the back end of an express sight.   The elevation grooves on the body would do a good job of hiding the weld on top, most don’t try to hide their work on hidden areas….  wouldn’t be the first time someone tried to “improve” a sight… FWIW my opinion and $10 might get you a cup of coffee 

  

That had crossed my mind too, but welding, or silver brazing, such thin stock would have required the skill of a master metalsmith, or more likely, jewelry maker.

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PICS UP NOW. No sign of skullduggery on the sight. Absolutely no makers marks or other except for the 50,1 and 2 on the leaves. Looks like someone(possibly Ray Charles) rubbed the top of the 50 yard leaf with a file a tad uneven.IMG_39061.JPGImage EnlargerIMG_39071.JPGImage EnlargerIMG_39081.JPGImage EnlargerIMG_39091.JPGImage EnlargerIMG_39101.JPGImage EnlargerIMG_39111.JPGImage EnlargerIMG_39121.JPGImage Enlarger

Beats me anyway. Never saw one like it.

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That is very interesting.   I’d really like to see it in person…. where are you located?  any chance you’ll be at any of the following shows?  Missoula, Mt. this week, Portland, Ore. in two weeks, Reno in three weeks, Puyallup WAC show in October, or Reno again in October or Tulsa in November…?

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Wish I was going to be but I’m way up in Canada. I thought someone on here could identify it but so far, no joy.

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I will show it to the various sight guys at the shows….  I’ll let you know.

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That is very interesting.   I’d really like to see it in person…. where are you located?  any chance you’ll be at any of the following shows?  Missoula, Mt. this week, Portland, Ore. in two weeks, Reno in three weeks, Puyallup WAC show in October, or Reno again in October or Tulsa in November…?

  

I will be at the Portland OAC show on the Saturday the 13th.

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Bert… I travel with Glen Mattox… we have 8 tables. I’m not sure where are tables will be with the new venue… at the old venue, we’ve had the table island right in front of the entry door.  Look forward to meeting you in person.

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I will show it to the various sight guys at the shows….  I’ll let you know.

  

Thank you, appreciate it.

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