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Hello, everybody! I have been shopping around for a nice Lyman Number 6 folding rear sight. None, that I have seen, have any markings to indicate what rifle they were meant for. Are these sights a 'one size fits all', or are there different versions for different rifles? Thank you!

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Lyman's application chart lists different #6 numbers for different Win. models, so theoretically there were differences among them.  (Though I doubt those differences would be noticeable when the sight was mounted.)

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Roundsworth said
Hello, everybody! I have been shopping around for a nice Lyman Number 6 folding rear sight. None, that I have seen, have any markings to indicate what rifle they were meant for. Are these sights a 'one size fits all', or are there different versions for different rifles? Thank you!  

There definitely were different height sights for different applications.  For some reason, the application code was usually not stamped on the sight, but when it was, it was on the bottom of the base.  There were about 10 different application codes.  

What rifle are you planning to use the No. 6 on?  If there is no application code on the sight, there is a height range from .300" up to .490" which will determine the application for the individual No. 6 sight.

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November 19, 2017
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You need to find a lyman catalog that shows the heights of the sight for each application. I might have one and will look tonight.

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I have a few of these and they've always been in conjunction with a Lyman 21 on my 1894's or 1892's. I've never had a reason to pull one off and look for an application code. As others stated, I do see quite a few different application codes in the Strobel book, depending on model. 

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Here are the applications:

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The 3rd one should read "S" 0.395"

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Wow! Lots of good info. Thank you. I plan to use it on a 1928 vintage Model 94 carbine in 32 Special. It presently has a Marbles 94C front sight (.455") and a Lyman 1A (DA) tang sight. If the #6 'SL' sight measures .365", is that measurement taken from the bottom of the dovetail base to the bottom of the 'V'?

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Roundsworth said
Wow! Lots of good info. Thank you. I plan to use it on a 1928 vintage Model 94 carbine in 32 Special. It presently has a Marbles 94C front sight (.455") and a Lyman 1A (DA) tang sight. If the #6 'SL' sight measures .365", is that measurement taken from the bottom of the dovetail base to the bottom of the 'V'?  

Just going to use it to fill the rear sight slot, so there's no obstruction when using the tang sight?  Only thing I'd worry about is finding one with the patent marking, which at some point Lyman stopped using.

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The one I was interested in has the patent marking. When I asked for a measurement, the seller told me the sight was pre-packed for shipment and could not provide a measurement. His return policy was scary, so I am going to pass. I will keep an eye out for another one. Thanks, again, for all the good info.

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Roundsworth said
Wow! Lots of good info. Thank you. I plan to use it on a 1928 vintage Model 94 carbine in 32 Special. It presently has a Marbles 94C front sight (.455") and a Lyman 1A (DA) tang sight. If the #6 'SL' sight measures .365", is that measurement taken from the bottom of the dovetail base to the bottom of the 'V'?  

I don't believe the measurement would be to the bottom of the "V".  If you look at W95, the bottom of the "V" would be just about 1/2" high, which would make the top of the "ears" nearly 1" high.  That would in effect block one's vision.

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There is also a single blade #6 commonly found on the M57.  Very hard to find on the loose.   Big Larry

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There is also a single blade #6 commonly found on the M57.  Very hard to find on the loose.   Big Larry  

That would be the next-to-last one on the list:   6 Special, Winchester Models 56 & 57.  Single leaf, flat top, "V" notch.

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There is also a single blade #6 commonly found on the M57.  Very hard to find on the loose.   Big Larry  

Rarest of all is the original 1891 patent design, with only one flat leaf, no notch & no white triangle, or any other centering mark.  Like all of Lyman's earliest sights, it was not given a model number, but a descriptive name, in this case Patent Folding Sight; numbers came later. Only one I ever saw was the one I once had--before yielding to the temptation of selling it on ebay.  

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Yeah, I have a bad habit of selling off my stuff, and later needing it.   Big Larry

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Yeah, I have a bad habit of selling off my stuff, and later needing it.   Big Larry  

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lyman-6W-single-leaf-folding-rear-sight-Winchester/391929828772?hash=item5b40d695a4:g:v5wAAOSwTEJaEYti

Is this the one you were talking about?

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