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I am familiar with the M22-C Flat top rear sight, but upon close examination, I see where the flat tops on both my M55’s are not as wide as the one on my rifle. Is this because the bbl. is thinner? Thanks, Big Larry
Hi Larry
I do not know if it is because the barrel is thinner. I have to admit I do not collect the Model 55, and only know a little of what I’ve read and seen. Maybe someone else has a better idea.
Here is a page from a 1931 catalog you might find useful. Note for the Model 55 that one of the replacement sights listed is the 22-C (narrow leaf), while for the Model 94 it is the 22-A (wider leaf). Do you think your rifle has a 22-A?
Brad
Very interesting. I always thought the leaf was the little adjustable feature with the screw. 22’s as a rule do not have these. Madis’s book is not clear on this and Stroebel doesn’t even list it for the M55. He says the 22H is standard, which I have to disagree with. Perusing the Internet, I find almost 100% of M53’s and M55’s have 22-C’s, on these rifles for sale. Rennenburg says more original rifles he has seen, have the 22-C. I took what must be the 22-A off my 1916 vintage M1894 rifle as someone had filed a “V” into it. It is way wider than the sights on my M55’s. Thanks Brad. Big Larry
Hi Larry
I referred to the entire rear of the sight with the notch as the “leaf”; maybe the terminology isn’t correct. In the case of the 22-A and 22-C it is a flat top. Like you say, I don’t think either one of those two versions in the time period we are talking about had a sliding notch with the screw. The drawing of the 22-C shown in The Sight Book is a different or maybe earlier version, I’m not sure.
This 1916 catalog image shows the 22-A and I think you can see how they depicted it wider than the 22-C. I have some various photos of each also, mostly from auction listings, etc.
Some (not all) of the other 22 and 24 series sights also had sliding notches with the screw, not to forget your favorite, the 26-B.
Brad
In my research of the Model 55, the 22-C was/is the only sight Winchester used unless something else was special ordered. I have encountered several Model 55 rifles with the Lyman No. 21.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert, we are trying to ascertain the two M22 sights. The M55’s have a narrower leaf than the M22 on my M1894 rifle,(1916). Both are flat tops and have a small variation as to width. No sliding notch on either. The earlier sight is wider. I know the M55’s are correct and I do believe that this is the same sight for the M53. Thanks, Big Larry
Can you send me a clear picture of a 22-A alongside a 22-C ?
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Here are some 22-A sights on 1894s, S/N 948042 had the notch filed into a “v” by an owner:
Model 1895 35 WCF with 22-A:
This 1895 405 WCF has the narrow 22-C pictured in the 1931 catalog I posted, looks very similar to what I see on some Model 55s for sale:
Thank you my friend. Bert just confirmed my M55 sights are in fact 22-C’s. These 22-A’s are exactly like the ones I have. Thanks again, I knew I could count on you. Big Larry
Gentlemen, I am very new to this, so please pardon my errors in process.
I am trying to replace the original front sight, hooded, for a Winchester 68. I don’t want a reproduction. The ones I have seen usually have the patent number on the side of the lower ramp part, four parts in all. However, there are also some that claim to be original that don’t have this patent number, or any writing on them. Did they make them with and without the lettering? Is that a way to tell the age of the originals? thanks
hedley lamarr said
Here are some 22-A sights on 1894s, S/N 948042 had the notch filed into a “v” by an owner:
Model 1895 35 WCF with 22-A:
This 1895 405 WCF has the narrow 22-C pictured in the 1931 catalog I posted, looks very similar to what I see on some Model 55s for sale:
Yep, some idiot filed the 22-A on my near mint 1916 M1894 rifle as well. I just replaced it at a cost of $65 for a nice one on Ebay.
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