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Elevators 1A, 1B, 1C
August 13, 2019
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Looking to confirm elevator identity. I have some with 5 notches no pat. date,

5 notches with a pat. date 1901.

6 notches no pat. date.

6 notches & a pat. date 1901.

These have the thumb piece. I think a couple say 1905?. 

Can someone confirm which ones are 1A, 1B, or 1C. It’s not that easy trying to identify all these from books. Then there’s a 32B ugh!

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August 13, 2019
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Although there were changes to the angle/steepness of the notches and changes to the steel composition over the years they are fairly easy to differentiate since they are different heights.

The 1A is .210" from the bottom of the first (highest notch) to the bottom of the elevator.

The 1B is .162" from the bottom of the first (highest notch) to the bottom of the elevator.

The 1C is .175" from the bottom of the first (highest notch) to the bottom of the elevator.

Hope that helps.

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August 14, 2019
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JWA said
Although there were changes to the angle/steepness of the notches and changes to the steel composition over the years they are fairly easy to differentiate since they are different heights.

The 1A is .210" from the bottom of the first (highest notch) to the bottom of the elevator.

The 1B is .162" from the bottom of the first (highest notch) to the bottom of the elevator.

The 1C is .175" from the bottom of the first (highest notch) to the bottom of the elevator.

Hope that helps.

Regards,  

Yes helps me some JWA. I’m still trying to figure out the years they were introduced & Pat. Dates on some not on others. Appreciate the reply. 

AG

August 14, 2019
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Does anyone know if an article or reference exist besides the sight book on elevators, or has ever been written on elevators 1866 - 1950? If not I would like to see someone write one. I don’t have the experience or information to cover the subject but It would be nice to read one in the Collector with diagrams, photos, & applications(hint hint). 

JWA, Clarence, Chuck, Bob, Big Larry & others have been very helpful but it would be nice to reference an article to confirm & identify for all the newbies like myself. 

AG

August 14, 2019
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AG said
Does anyone know if an article or reference exist besides the sight book on elevators, or has ever been written on elevators 1866 - 1950? If not I would like to see someone write one. I don’t have the experience or information to cover the subject but It would be nice to read one in the Collector with diagrams, photos, & applications(hint hint). 

JWA, Clarence, Chuck, Bob, Big Larry & others have been very helpful but it would be nice to reference an article to confirm & identify for all the newbies like myself. 

AG  

Sounds like you need to start collecting the information and in time write the book. 

August 14, 2019
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Lol no I’m fine reading the article by someone else. 

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August 14, 2019
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JWA said  The 1A is .210" from the bottom of the first (highest notch) to the bottom of the elevator.

The 1B is .162" from the bottom of the first (highest notch) to the bottom of the elevator.

The 1C is .175" from the bottom of the first (highest notch) to the bottom of the elevator.

Hope that helps.

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JWA, I found a reference that has the 1B at .175 & 1C at .162,(the opposite of your post). I’m not sure of their expertise so just wanted to re-confirm your measurements & not a typo. 

Respectfully,

AG

August 14, 2019
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AG,

The measurements that JWA gave you are the same as in the Winchester sight book as well which is probably from the same source. I assume you are getting that book if you are a serious sight guy.

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August 15, 2019
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AG,

The measurements that JWA gave you are the same as in the Winchester sight book as well which is probably from the same source. I assume you are getting that book if you are a serious sight guy.

Bob  

Yes it arrives tomorrow Bob. Thanks 

AG

August 15, 2019
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Bob is correct, the dimensions I gave are from the Winchester blueprints which I am sure is where Madis got his info for the sight book.

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Can’t get more confirmed than that. Thank you JWA. 

AG

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