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Winchester Model 1894 Sights Project
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Brad, attached are pictures of my 1894 30-30 SN 876775 front & rear sights. DOM 1918 WACA site. DonP1040391.JPGImage EnlargerP1040390.JPGImage Enlarger

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Hello

I joined to find info and discuss some older guns I have.  In particular, I have a Model 94 SRC which was made in 1921.  It has the sliding rear ramp sight with 0-20 elevations and I wanted to hunt deer with it this year but it was shooting very high.  The slide bar is loose and I would like to know if there is something wrong with the sight but also, exactly how that sight was designed to work.

 

I tried to paste a picture but it would not work, it is identical to the picture Brad linked in his PDF images.

 

Thank you

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More than likely the tension spring for the sliding elevation piece is missing/broken.

You stated that it is shooting high, but did not mention the distance you are shooting, how you have the sight positioned, or the ammo type you are using… all of which will have an effect on the POI.

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Thanks

Can you show me or explain where the spring should be, it’s been 30 years since I hunted with it or even shot it?  The slide won’t stay in position when the elevator is up.

I was shooting at 50 yards and it was a foot high.  I was shooting the same ammo I always shot in it before, 30-30 Remington core lokt PSP. My point of aim was roughly the same as it is with any rifle, changing the sight picture helped a little but no where near what would allow me to hit the bull.

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Can you show me or explain where the spring should be, it’s been 30 years since I hunted with it or even shot it?  The slide won’t stay in position when the elevator is up.

I was shooting at 50 yards and it was a foot high.  I was shooting the same ammo I always shot in it before, 30-30 Remington core lokt PSP. My point of aim was roughly the same as it is with any rifle, changing the sight picture helped a little but no where near what would allow me to hit the bull.

  

Have you tried using the sighting notch with the elevation staff in its flat position?  What bullet weight are the Remington Core Lokt loads?  The sights on a 1921 production Model 94 were regulated for 170-grain factory loads.

The spring is located on the right hand side of the sliding elevation piece, inserted in the slot/gap between the slider and the elevation staff.

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Thanks again!  I apologize, I did not realize until I read your response that I failed to state the bullet weight, I am shooting 150 grain.  I was shooting with the elevation staff in the flat position as well. I did some target shooting and hunting with it 30 years ago and it was fairly accurate, I remember that dad hunted with the staff flat.

150 grain vs 170 grain wouldn’t account for the drastic impact I was getting with the staff flat, but it could help. I guess I’m at the point where I may just have to get used to a drastic sight picture.

I see where the spring “may” be, or “should” be.  I will try some WD 40 to see if it is just gummed up, or possibly it’s just weak allowing the slide to fall down, I’d like for it to stay in place as designed.

 

ETA:  It’s also possible that my old eyes just can’t see the proper sight picture! LOL

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