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Winchester Model 1894 Sights Project
December 6, 2013
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That add on the top of this page looks like it is advertising the same Sheard front sight I have on one of my 1894's. Here is a photo .....

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Here's one of his ads from 1910, I'll look for an earlier one:
http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/hurint/media/1894%20sight%20reference/forum1_zps1b63e06c.jpg.html

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Marble had Sheard sights in their catalogs as early as 1907 and they were labeled Sheard's Front Sight, Made by M.S.A. Co.. These sights were also being advertised and sold by Sheard at the same time from his own shop.

By at least 1915 this Stewart sight was out. I don't know how close this was to Sheard's fire, as mentioned in The Sight Book. It can't be coincidence that they were both coming from Tacoma, WA and looked that similar. Perhaps Stewart tried to pick up where Sheard stopped? This is a 1915 ad. I've seen Stewart marked sights on ebay and that. Anybody have one on a gun?
http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/hurint/media/1894%20sight%20reference/forum2_zps96d472bf.jpg.html

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April 6, 2014
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Added a few guns to the project here and there recently. I've found several of the Winchester (Three Leaf) Express sights marked 1, 2 and 3 in the past and heard of others with no verification. They aren't in any of the sight books I have. It would be great to see some pictures of more if anyone has them.

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I've been going out of my way to collect good condition Marble sights made under the Marble Safety Axe Co. time period of 1898-1911. I find them interesting and they fit into the same time period of the early 1900s hunting rifles I try to collect. This particular gun has been in the sight project for awhile now and it has all MSA sights installed on it. I was wondering if anyone else has seen that add on disc between the aperture and stem. I'm thinking it's a very well done custom job right now. Any ideas?

Brad

http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/hurint/media/1894%20sight%20reference/msa2_zps3fc4976d.jpg.html

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Has anyone seen this sight before?
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Brad Very nice Mod 94 sight article in the Spring WACA magazine !

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Glad you liked it and thanks!

Brad

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December 1, 2014
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I've added a few guns to the 1894 sight project since a large portion of it was put in The Winchester Collector magazine.  I'm always looking to see more so if anyone has any pictures or even some pictures of interesting individual sights please feel free to email me at: 1894sightinfo@gmail.com

 

This rear sight is on a deluxe 1886 with a heavy barrel.  I asked several people about the sight and I guess the best we can come up with is that it's Marlin-esque.  It looks like it's been on the gun a long time.  Anyone see another one like this before?

 

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December 1, 2014
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That's quite an interesting sight.  Agree that it is Marlin-esque.  The length of the sight, the fish-hook elevator and the thickness of the buckhorn indicate that it may be an "early" model, "large" sight, possibly in the 9R Marlin model family, but I haven't been able to find an exact match.

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December 1, 2014
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I find that eBay can have some pretty interesting sights every now & then. Below are links to some windage globe front sights that ended in the last 3 months.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Winchester-Windage-Spirit-Level-Globe-Front-Sight-In-Their-1878-Catalog-/201194763384?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=haakcvV3HeUMp3NUWcwNNR%252BqZ08%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

This one with a screw adjustment...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Winchester-REM-SCREW-Style-Windage-ADJUSTABLE-FRONT-SIGHT-/251661446071?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=haakcvV3HeUMp3NUWcwNNR%252BqZ08%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Earlier this year, a Lyman 46 elevating rear sight was also on eBay. I didn't save pictures and the auction is too old to pull back up but you get the idea...

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And then there are the very suspicious listings on eBay, like this one, that claims to be a vintage Winchester sight.  The windage markings on the front are crooked, the sight insert is a modern repro, the adjustment wheel has a hex head set screw and all the photos are blurry, which in my opinion, are done to disguise details.  Yours for only $400!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Winchester-Style-Windage-Spirit-Level-Globe-Sight-Rifle-Gun-Part-Lot-/231336634987

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Wincacher said

And then there are the very suspicious listings on eBay, like this one, that claims to be a vintage Winchester sight.  The windage markings on the front are crooked, the sight insert is a modern repro, the adjustment wheel has a hex head set screw and all the photos are blurry, which in my opinion, are done to disguise details.  Yours for only $400!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Winchester-Style-Windage-Spirit-Level-Globe-Sight-Rifle-Gun-Part-Lot-/231336634987

That was  a repo sight, the course knurling is the giveaway along with blurry pictures.

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spursfan said

I find that eBay can have some pretty interesting sights every now & then. Below are links to some windage globe front sights that ended in the last 3 months.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Winchester-Windage-Spirit-Level-Globe-Front-Sight-In-Their-1878-Catalog-/201194763384?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=haakcvV3HeUMp3NUWcwNNR%252BqZ08%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

This one with a screw adjustment...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Winchester-REM-SCREW-Style-Windage-ADJUSTABLE-FRONT-SIGHT-/251661446071?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=haakcvV3HeUMp3NUWcwNNR%252BqZ08%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Earlier this year, a Lyman 46 elevating rear sight was also on eBay. I didn't save pictures and the auction is too old to pull back up but you get the idea...

Greg

I think pdog72 picked up one similar to one of those awhile back for an 1885...

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December 2, 2014
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hedley lamarr said

spursfan said

I find that eBay can have some pretty interesting sights every now & then. Below are links to some windage globe front sights that ended in the last 3 months.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Winchester-Windage-Spirit-Level-Globe-Front-Sight-In-Their-1878-Catalog-/201194763384?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=haakcvV3HeUMp3NUWcwNNR%252BqZ08%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

This one with a screw adjustment...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Winchester-REM-SCREW-Style-Windage-ADJUSTABLE-FRONT-SIGHT-/251661446071?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=haakcvV3HeUMp3NUWcwNNR%252BqZ08%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Earlier this year, a Lyman 46 elevating rear sight was also on eBay. I didn't save pictures and the auction is too old to pull back up but you get the idea...

Greg

I think pdog72 picked up one similar to one of those awhile back for an 1885...

Actually, the one you are thinking of is original to my 32-40 high wall and I believe its been on the gun since it left the factory.

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Wincacher said

That's quite an interesting sight.  Agree that it is Marlin-esque.  The length of the sight, the fish-hook elevator and the thickness of the buckhorn indicate that it may be an "early" model, "large" sight, possibly in the 9R Marlin model family, but I haven't been able to find an exact match.

Kind of looks like a cross between a Sharps and Marlin. Does it look like it's been made up?

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Here's the only other picture I have.  I thought the sight looked well made, but I did not put a magnifying glass to it.   I believe the owner has had the gun for quite awhile and that' how he got it.

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hedley lamarr said

Here's one of his ads from 1910, I'll look for an earlier one:
http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/hurint/media/1894%20sight%20reference/forum1_zps1b63e06c.jpg.html

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Marble had Sheard sights in their catalogs as early as 1907 and they were labeled Sheard's Front Sight, Made by M.S.A. Co.. These sights were also being advertised and sold by Sheard at the same time from his own shop.

By at least 1915 this Stewart sight was out. I don't know how close this was to Sheard's fire, as mentioned in The Sight Book. It can't be coincidence that they were both coming from Tacoma, WA and looked that similar. Perhaps Stewart tried to pick up where Sheard stopped? This is a 1915 ad. I've seen Stewart marked sights on ebay and that. Anybody have one on a gun?
http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/hurint/media/1894%20sight%20reference/forum2_zps96d472bf.jpg.html

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A friend and WACA member came through and sent some pictures of a Stewart front sight that is on a Model 1894.  The sight definitely looks to have been on the rifle for a long time.  The rifle is in the 176,000 serial range so it may have been a replacement from a long time ago considering the advertisement shows a patent date of April 21, 1914.  I've seen Stewart carbine blades on ebay before.  I can't remember seeing the rifle sight on a rifle. 

Brad

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Brad,

I have a graduated tang sight in a box marked for a 94. Have you every seen one on a gun before.

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No, not that I can remember. Sounds interesting.

There was a 38/55 sold a little while back that lettered with a mid-range and beach and it had those sights on the rifle.  Maybe someone here bought it?

Thanks,

Brad

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Brad,

I was searching some web sites and came across this unique front sight on a deluxe 1894.

http://thewinchestergrove.com/1894/16149x.htm

What company do you suppose made it, or is it a custom?

Al

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