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#44A Carbine Sight Variations
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Bill Hockett
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April 2, 2024 - 5:36 pm
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I have been looking at what Winchester calls “carbine” sights.  The earliest type was used on the 1866 and 1873 carbines and has a short leaf.  There is no adjustable slide.  See illustration from catalog.  

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The type that Madis calls the #44A first shows up in the April 1, 1882 catalog.  It has a longer leaf with adjustable slide.  No range marks on the leaf.  

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An updated variation shows up in the January 1, 1884 catalog.  Range marks go from 2-9.  This variation may be marked 1873 but not all were.  Note the V notch on the leaf and slide.

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Sometime early in the 20th century the range marks on the leaf were changed.  I can’t find a catalog illustration showing this change.

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The catalogue #79 of 1914 shows the leaf and slider with a small U notch

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There are other carbine sight variations marked 1876 that are longer but similar looking to the #44A.  These variations are not mentioned in the Madis Sight Book.   More knowledge just brings more questions…

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 Bill.

The longer version was listed as a “Sporting Leaf sight”, and they were used on the Model 1876, Single Shot, and Model 1886 rifles.

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The French WWI contract 94’s also had the carbine sight… range was in meters.

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Bert H. said
 Bill.

The longer version was listed as a “Sporting Leaf sight”, and they were used on the Model 1876, Single Shot, and Model 1886 rifles.

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Bert,  it appears I was looking at variations of the sporting leaf sights and thinking they were different models.  So much to learn…

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