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21 Front & 22 Rear
October 26, 2013
1:11 pm
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Brad ( Hedley Lamarr ) I think my quest is finally over. I traveled to the WACA show being held in Massachusetts today and picked these up. I believe these are the correct front and rear sights that belong on my 1894 30cal TD. So, do you think they will do?? Thanks, Angel

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October 26, 2013
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Angel

That looks like a nice, tall 21 series front sight which is good for .30-30, especially modern ammunition. If you look through The Sight Book, you'd see notations for the set screw being added and removed at different times in production. I think you are safe there too.

Rear sight has the "u" which was available in 1914. I believe it's also OK that it doesn't have the screw and slide adjustment based on what I've seen, and that is also noted in The Sight Book. Winchester also used that particular sight in their catalog illustrations of the time period and labeled it as the Sporting Rear Sight. I think the flat top rear sights were becoming more popular and that style was also being used by at least one of the competition, Savage, with the Sporting Wind Gauge Rear Sight, No.15 W.G. Many later gun writers also did not like the semi and full buck horn style on the old guns.

I've had guys who should know better tell me to use a center punch to rough up either the male or female portion of the dovetail on install, or to pound down on the ramp with a brass hammer. Changing out a front sight recently on one of my rifles I saw some of those methods had been used previously. I've just used a shim in a loose dovetail fit without problems, as recommended by the manufacturers.

I'm just trying to learn and hopefully be able to share more of my own thoughts and observations on the subject. It's hard to try and remember every single measurement and application code without having that information in front of me in print. In most cases I've tried to learn through the actual catalogs, and if I'm lucky, some of the inserts that came with them too. I also try to look at the sights on guns as much as possible at shows or those pictured for sale online. I also inspect those that I'm able to handle when gathering photos for my sight project. It is my hopeful intent to share a increasingly larger portion of my own thoughts on the subject rather and depending less on what has been written before. If I have helped I'm glad.

I think you did good.

Brad

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Brad Dunbar

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October 26, 2013
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Brad,
Sights are something that we all look at and I think most of us consider them important in the originality and a debatable portion of the value of a gun. This being said, and maybe I only speak for myself, I don't have the time to learn all of the variations and various applications for them. I applaud your efforts so far and your willingness to do the research in a very overwhelming and quite confusing part of our Winchester collecting.

Keep up the good work,

~Gary~

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October 27, 2013
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Thanks Gary. I find gun sights to be an interesting thing to learn about. I'm hoping to add quite a few images to the 1894 sight project later this fall and this winter.

Brad

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Brad Dunbar

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