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Winchester Model 12 28 Gauge with Cutts Questions
March 18, 2018
4:06 pm
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 1.Just wondering if a cutts has much effect on the value of a 28 gauge Winchester Model 12 ?Pretty sure it does.Smile

2.Does it make a difference in value if the cutts was installed at the factory,rather than after market?

3.Is there away to tell for sure ,if the cutts was factory installed.

4. For myself I do not like the looks of a cutts on a 28 gauge Model 12, whether it was installed at the factory or not and to my eye it devalues the gun.Just wondering if this is true or just my opinion?

March 18, 2018
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1.  If the Cutts was factory installed, it will not have any negative affect on the value. 

2.  Yes, it does make a difference.  Aftermarket installation will significantly (and negatively) affect the value.

3.  Yes there is.  On a barrel with a factory installed Cutts Compensator, there will not be a choke marking stamped on the left side of the barrel.  If you see a Model 12 barrel with a choke marking stamped on it, and it has any type of external choke device, it was installed aftermarket.

4.  I am like you... I do not like the looks of any external choke device mounted on the end of a barrel.  Winchester fixed that problem with the advent of screw in chokes on the Model 59, and later models.

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March 19, 2018
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 Thanks for that Bert.That pretty much covers what I wanted to know.Smile

March 19, 2018
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With a screen name of 28 gauge I'm thinking you'll be uniquely qualified to tell me why someone would put a compensator on a sweet-shooting chambering like the 28 gauge? I know some folks are more recoil-sensitive than others but that seemed a little odd.

What did your inspection reveal on the subject Model 12?

The 20 gauge shotgun my dad had since high school had a Poly Choke or some such contraption and I use extended choke tubes on some of my clay bird guns so I guess something hanging off the far end of the gun doesn't bother me much.

 

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March 19, 2018
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 Have not gone to inspect the gun in person yet.Just talking with the owner so far.He says it is a factory installed cutts and that makes it a very rare 28 gauge Winchester Model 12.How rare ?I do not know.I only know, that for myself I would not pay top dollar for a 28 gauge Model 12 with a cutts,even if it was factory installed.Smile

November 5, 2018
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https://www.proxibid.com/Firearms-Military-Artifacts/Firearms/WINCHESTER-MODEL-12-PUMP-12GA-W-COMPENSATOR/lotInformation/44559419

The Cutts on this model 12 12 gauge looks factory, but according to Madis (page 532 1985 edition of the Winchester Book) factory Cutts installations were discontinued in 1954.  The serial 1686525 dates this one to 1956.  Is this  a case of the Winchester book being incorrect or is the Cutts a later addition?  Barrel is not choke marked and the rest of the shotgun appears correct to me, but I am far from an expert.  Any information is appreciated. 

November 6, 2018
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I believe someone got a very nice model 12 at a very reasonable price, even tho it has that god awful contraption hanging off the end of the barrel. The pad looks correct (squashed down as are the ones on my heavy ducks) along with the duckbill vent rib. (same as my Black Diamond)

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November 7, 2018
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Yes, I thought it would go for a lot more than that.  They had several other model 12 that were reblued that brought as much or more than this one.  This auction house provided lunch and did not charge a fee for the background check-I was pleasantly surprised by the entire auction and took this one home. 

Thank you Erin.

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