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Model 21 Tournament Skeet 20 ga. How Rare?
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July 11, 2018 - 4:39 am
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Hi There,

 

I’m a newbe here.  The title pretty much says it all.

How rare is a 21 Tournament Skeet in 20 ga.?

 

Thanks in advance!

-Blue Chips-

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There are no available production statistics for the Model 21 shotguns, and no possible way to answer your question.

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Hi There,

 

I know that I don’t see many Tournament Skeet versions and all

of the ones I have seen have been 12 gauge (except one).  So,

I figure it must be pretty uncommon.  It would have been interesting

to have more definite info but I understand if there hasn’t been

any definite study of production figures.

 

Thanks for responding!

-Blue Chips-

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 Tournament skeet model 21s are scarce.  They were only offered for two years in the 30s. They had better wood than the standard grade. The skeet, trap,and custom grades came along  shortly after which had fancy deluxe wood.

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Hi There,

 

The Tournament Skeet in question is one that has been in the Family

for some time.  My Grandfather got it sometime in the second half of

the 1930’s and it has been handed down to me.  I checked with the

Cody Museum and it was made in 1935 “for stock.”

 

Thank you for your time and attention!

-Blue Chips-

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Hi There,

 

Here are just a few pics of the 21 in question:

 

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Enjoy!

-Blue Chips-

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wlw-19958 said
Hi There,

 

The Tournament Skeet in question is one that has been in the Family

for some time.  My Grandfather got it sometime in the second half of

the 1930’s and it has been handed down to me.  I checked with the

Cody Museum and it was made in 1935 “for stock.”

 

Thank you for your time and attention!

-Blue Chips-

Webb  

http://paulinemuerrle.com/factory-engraving-records/

http://paulinemuerrle.com/model-21/

Pauline Muerrle has the polishing department books for the Model 21. So she can tell you when your serial number was applied to the gun.

She also might can tell you a little more info about it. At the very least you can find out the serial application date from her, as I believe Cody does not have this information.

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The CFM has the complete records for the early production Model 21 shotguns. They have the “build” sheets that contain where, when, and who.

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Hi There,

 

I did contact the Cody Museum (as I mentioned earlier).  I have a “Letter”

coming.  The information about it is:

 

WINCHESTER MODEL 21 – SERIAL NUMBER 9447
Order sheet: Not Available
Tournament, Skeet Grade
Symbol: G2190B
20 gauge
Barrel Length: 26 inches
Right Barrel: #1, Left Barrel: #2
Single trigger
Selective ejector
Pistol grip stock
Pitch: 1-1/2 in., Pull: 14 in., Drop at heel: 2-1/2
in., Drop at comb: 1-9/16 in.
Weight: 6 lbs. 8 oz.
Grade of Wood: Tournament
Made for: Stock
Order number: G21B
Inspection started: April 01, 1935
Inspection finished: May 31, 1935
 
Good Luck!
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I have #9445 tournament skeet

Waiting on my “Cody” letter

 

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Would a Tournament Skeet grade ever leave factory with a Pacmayr recoil pad on it? I have a 20 gauge tournament skeet lettered and all and this is the only part of the gun that I’m worried about. 

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Robert,

I highly doubt that any Winchester Model 21 ever left the Custom Shop with a Pachmyar recoil pad on it. If it is not listed on the factory letter or build sheet, it is not original.

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Thank you as always, Burt!

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