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MODEL 12 AND MODEL 50
April 6, 2020
2:12 am
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Fellow collectors,

  I am considering the purchase of a "new to me" Winchester shotgun and have narrowed the search down to either a model 12 or a model 50.  I would use it for Trap/Skeet and perhaps bird hunting sometime in the future.  I currently use a vintage 1911 AH Fox double gun with 30 inch barrels choked full/full, which I love but would like to have something a bit faster on the reload.  I have used pump action M870 shotguns in the military but the idea of a reliable semi- auto shotgun intrigues me.  The M12 is vintage 1957 with 30 inch barrel choked full selling for $445 and the m50 is vintage 1960 with 28 inch barrel choked modified for $395.  Both are in excellent unmolested cosmetic and mechanical condition.  Both are steel framed with nicely figured wood.  Which would be a better long term choice as far a collectibility, durability and value.  I would not shoot them often but I do like to shoot.

 

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Foxdoublegunner

April 6, 2020
9:36 pm
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Having hunted with both and being happy with their performance the model twelve always has an allure to it in any market where as the model 50 doesn’t seem to get any real respect. I think you could run either over with a truck and they will function just fine. As far as collectibility, I would think that a regular field grade model twelve will hold its value(if you don’t over pay for it) better than a model 50. The model 50 might be heavier to carry, I am sure someone here would know the weight off hand. Hope this helps! I’d buy both and compare them:)

April 6, 2020
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Bill,

  Thank you for your reply.  Both shotguns in question are field grade and 12 gauge.  They are both in comparably excellent condition and within a few dollars of each other in price when taking into account CC fees (or lack thereof) and different shipping costs.  I am leaning more towards the Model 12 for the reasons you have mentioned but the Model 50 has it's own allure because of the technical innovation, speed of shot and checkering on the wood however the wood grain on the Model 12 is more interesting.  I can only buy one.

 

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Foxdoublegunner 

April 6, 2020
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The model 50 I hunted with was also a 12 gauge- I like them, and still have a few.they are all steel and strong. Comparing the semi auto action to my Remington sp10, the model 50 seems a little clunkier- not sure if that makes any sense, and is surely not meant to offend anyone- don’t get me wrong, the model 50 was smooth,but didn’t seem buttery smooth

April 7, 2020
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Semi autos aren't friendly to the other shooters.   They throw the hulls at other people.  I shot them on the range but always asked the other guys if it would bother them first.  You can get devices that catch or trap the expended hulls.  The model 50 that my dad had seemed to be too heavy in my opinion.  A full or modified choke will work for trap but you really want a wider pattern for skeet.  

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