January 5, 2026
OfflineThe May 12th Morphy auction lists a 28 gauge Model 12 # 751304 (auction # 1432) with a solid rib and extensive aftermarket engraving with an auction estimate of $4-6,000.
I am not a buyer at auctions as my trust level is inadequate. What may I be missing from this auction item. How would one verify this gun other than by physical examination and disassembly?
jlb
April 15, 2005
Offlinejlb said
How would one verify this gun other than by physical examination and disassembly?
jlb
You answered your own question. Auction descriptions should never be trusted to be accurate, and they seldom if ever provide the requisite photos of the gun in question.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L

January 20, 2023
OfflineEven I know one thing to look for and auction photography should disclose it. When the gun is broken down, the gauge stamp on the face of the receiver should be “28” and, more importantly, the top loop of the “8”should not be higher than the top of the “2”. The less talented fakers merely add a second “O” on top of the zero in “20”. The absence of that anomaly is by no means a guarantee the receiver and a 28 gauge barrel left the factory together but, at least, you could assume the fakery was of a decent grade.
Frankly, I couldn’t sleep nights after buying any Winchester 28 gauge Model 12 at current prices, unless a factory or reliable dealer record supported the originality of the gauge. Emphasis on “reliable.” Boxes mean zip.
Maybe it is my imagination, but the reason for the existence of this 28 gauge pump was Skeet. While there are any number of used 20 gauge Model 12 guns kitted out with a Cutts, some roony adjustable buttplate, and plenty evidence of extensive use in competition– such well used and modified Model 12 guns in 28 gauge are notably absent from the marketplace.
When a 28 gauge Model 12 does come up for sale, almost invariably it is a deluxe model in high condition, without any indicia of use in Skeet competition. Just Decades of protected storage in an eccentric owner’s climate-controlled closet.
I am no expert on the Model 12 and mine ( a 20) is presently a Browning, as is my Model 42. Perhaps someone who collects and more fully understands the originals will illuminate the 28 gauge mystery.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
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