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Can I get some insight into a different Model 12 ?
December 19, 2020
4:33 pm
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I’m trying to learn more about a pretty nice Model 12. The wood is great as is the overall condition. It has a Cutts Compensator choke on it that looks like it is done right possibly factory. The barrel reads Model 12-12 GA 2 3/4 CHAM  WS-1.

Thanks in advance. 
This is my first post so I have not figured out the pictures yet but I know a nice one when I see it.

December 19, 2020
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Unfortunately, the Cutts Compensator was installed after the fact, and in doing so, somebody ruined a relatively uncommon gun. When it left the Winchester factory, the barrel was made with Winchester Skeet-1 (WS-1) choked barrel.

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December 19, 2020
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Bert-

Is it safe to assume that in the unlikely event Winchester installed a compensator or adjustable choke they did not use a barrel with a choke indicated on the barrel? 

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I’m betting that would make a pretty sweet skeet gun, how does it shoot?

 

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December 19, 2020
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Mike,

Yes, it is safe to assume that Winchester used unmarked barrels for the guns that they installed an adjustable choke on.  If you find a Model 12 with a choke marked on the barrel, it should not have an external choke device violating the end of the barrel.

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December 21, 2020
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What would you value this one at just the way it is?

December 21, 2020
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Mgp629 said
What would you value this one at just the way it is?  

Without seeing the gun, it is nearly impossible to put a price tag on it.  You need to provide some good pictures of it.

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December 21, 2020
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Based on what I am seeing, it has very little (if any) value in the collector market.  The aftermarket recoil pad is in poor condition, and the butt stock was most likely cut-down to install it.  The barrel has definitely been altered (shortened) to install the aftermarket Cutts Compensator.  Like I mentioned before, somebody did a very bad disservice to that gun when they altered it.  As a “shooter” grade gun, it is worth maybe $400.

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December 21, 2020
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Thanks for your opinion Bert

December 23, 2020
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Appears there is not a choke installed in the Cutts Compensator too.

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