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1897 Engraved Trap
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TXGunNut
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October 8, 2024 - 2:45 pm
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It appears to me the bidder finally saw through the hype and schill strategy. I’m happy for him. I still like the gun but I still have windows, doors, siding and shingles to pay for. 

 

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October 8, 2024 - 9:27 pm
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Bert H. said

Tedk said

Looks like a case of buyers remorse, the gun has been relisted

  

Additionally, none of the current Schill bidders are the same as the previous listing.

Winchester 1897 12ga 1of1! Holy grail! Master engraved! Black diamond! – Pump Action Shotguns at GunBroker.com : 1069897317

  

Schill bidding was what I was about to mention…..shady.

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October 8, 2024 - 10:18 pm
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Agreed.

That first “auction” has all the appearances of being pure theatre.

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Bert H. said

TXGunNut said

Bert-

Your 2017 1893 article was indeed worth revisiting. I just figured the 1897 story is hard to tell without mentioning the 1893 and maybe the 1887. I suppose that is why your 1897 article is 33 pages! Did Winchester ever put a soft rubber recoil pad on the 1897? Have you made any progress locating all those “missing” 1893’s?

Mike  

I do mention the Model 1893 in my Model 1897 article (and even mention the 2017 article).  In the interval between 2017 and today, I have increased the documented number of Model 1893 shotguns to (587).

Yes, Winchester did indeed offer the Model 1897 with a Silver’s solid rubber recoil pad.  In later years they offered their own solid rubber recoil pad.

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I had a M1897 with a factory Winchester solid rubber pad.  It was not special in any other way.

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October 8, 2024 - 11:43 pm
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There’s a lot that could be said about this “trap gun” (none of it good).  I’m not an expert on engraving but I would be very surprised if that is factory engraving.

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steve004 said
There’s a lot that could be said about this “trap gun” (none of it good).  I’m not an expert on engraving but I would be very surprised if that is factory engraving.

It very positively is not factory engraving!

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Among the number of claims the seller makes that is untrue. Great example of what is bad about GB. Why would a seller claim to have a Cody letter, yet not post it in the auction? Somehow that “cody letter” will disappear when transfer time comes, or it’s such a poor quality fake the seller knows better than to post it in the auction. I’m naturally cautious and cynical would not touch this one at all. Thanks to the dearth of factory records, the Model 12 attracts more than it’s share of crooks.

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