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January 9, 2023 - 6:46 pm
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One of the better videos on how to save your shoulder when shooting crescent style butt stocks. 

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January 9, 2023 - 7:46 pm
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OK with light recoil, wouldn’t want to try it with a .45-70.

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January 9, 2023 - 8:31 pm
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My buddy’s 45-90 half mag 86 with crescent butt might suggest the same! 

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Interesting style of shooting. Or I just use my 45-90 with the 30″ extra heavy barrel. tips the scale at 13 1/2 lbs. 

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Yeah a full barrel length 45 Gov model 86 is pretty heavy and the recoil all things considered is fairly light. But you want to hold it tight to your body. The crescent shape isn’t as drastic as the muzzleloader he’s showing on a 86 either. A shotgun butt plate is still my preferred chosen extra feature.

One thing he didn’t mention is the other method of shooting was to place the crescent at the base of the bicep at the elbow. This allows one to stand behind a tree and slightly lean outward and shoot around the tree while still being concealed. Then using the tree as additional support and further increasing accuracy when aiming. This method was mainly developed for hunting purposes but later used in combat. Makes a hell of lot more sense to shoot from cover than standing shoulder to shoulder in a firing line. But the equipment is different between these two scenarios. A smoothbore musket vs a rifle. I do believe I’d prefer to have a rifle.

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I have shot almost all my guns.  Only the 45-70’s or the 35 WCF actually kicked in my opinion.  I have other 45’s too.   I have shot hundreds of rounds of 45-90 with crescent butts.  Hold the gun next to your shoulder.  Shoot some high powered 1895’s or even a 45-70 with 405 grain bullets with a shotgun butts.   Shotgun butts do not help for the high powered heavy bullet rifles.  1895’s are not good at absorbing recoil.

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I have shot almost all my guns.  Only the 45-70’s or the 35 WCF actually kicked in my opinion.  I have other 45’s too.   I have shot hundreds of rounds of 45-90 with crescent butts.  Hold the gun next to your shoulder.  Shoot some high powered 1895’s or even a 45-70 with 405 grain bullets with a shotgun butts.   Shotgun butts do not help for the high powered heavy bullet rifles.  1895’s are not good at absorbing recoil.

  

I’ve heard that about the 95’s. Perhaps a design flaw in recoil handling of said rifles.

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I’ve heard that about the 95’s. Perhaps a design flaw in recoil handling of said rifles.

  

Only design element relevant to felt recoil would be drop at heel & comb.  ’95s may have slightly more of that drop compared to other lever guns (easy to compare the diff), but the main factor is the much more powerful cartridges available for the ’95.

Hard to believe shotgun butts wouldn’t help somewhat, though maybe not enough to register on your “pain index.”  What they certainly do is allow the butt to be positioned more securely against the shoulder.

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Clarence, although not practical in 1866-1895, I have a gel pad in my skeet shirt and another in my skeet vest(same location). With my jacket on also, it would pretty much take a cannon to feel any discomfort. It’s comical,(and a bit sick lol) when my brothers or friends shoot my crescent butt guns at the range in their t-shirts for the first time. 

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Clarence, although not practical in 1866-1895, I have a gel pad in my skeet shirt and another in my skeet vest(same location). With my jacket on also, it would pretty much take a cannon to feel any discomfort. It’s comical,(and a bit sick lol) when my brothers or friends shoot my crescent butt guns at the range in their t-shirts for the first time. 

  

I bought a PAST pad as soon as I saw their first ad.  Then, when the gel turned hard, as it eventually does after about a doz yrs, bought another. 

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clarence said

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Clarence, although not practical in 1866-1895, I have a gel pad in my skeet shirt and another in my skeet vest(same location). With my jacket on also, it would pretty much take a cannon to feel any discomfort. It’s comical,(and a bit sick lol) when my brothers or friends shoot my crescent butt guns at the range in their t-shirts for the first time. 

  

I bought a PAST pad as soon as I saw their first ad.  Then, when the gel turned hard, as it eventually does after about a doz yrs, bought another. 

  

I need another.

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A kitchen towel strategically folded and placed works just as well absorbing the recoil if your doing a lot of shooting Wink

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1892takedown said
A kitchen towel strategically folded and placed works just as well absorbing the recoil if your doing a lot of shooting Wink

  

The Army allowed use of padded canteen covers when training on the hard-kicking M1903, which even old soldiers complained about when it replaced the mild-mannered Krag. 

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