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November 7, 2015
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I treat the 45-70 and 45-90 as two different cartridges, actually more like five. There’s the Trapdoor (or BP equivalent) 45-70, the lever gun (smokeless powder) 45-70, the strong action (better wear the magnum recoil pad!) 45-70, the BPCR 45-90 and the Express 45-90. In my humble opinion the Trapdoor, BPCR and Express loads are BP loads, the other two are smokeless. I’ve ruffled a few feathers by suggesting people fire BP loads in their pristine 1886’s in 45-90 but I don’t see much point in doing it any other way. For me it’s all about the history, I want the same shooting experience as the first owner of this rifle, as nearly as possible. Cleaning up after a BP shoot isn’t near the chore some smokeless shooters make it out to be, it’s a labor of love and part of the experience. Quite honestly it takes me longer to clean the brass than the rifle.
Mike
Bert H. said
In answer to your question, the Winchester began chambering the Model 1885 Single Shot for the 22 Long Rifle in 1890.
Bert
Bert, I forgot about the 85’s. How many low walls were made in LR with takedown?
Chuck,
I do not have the answer to that question… the Take Down did not exist until 1907, and many of them were made outside of the letterable range.;There were a fair number of high-wall Take Down rifles made in 22 LR as well (which includes First & Second variation Winder Muskets).
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Thanks. This low wall was manufactured in 1908. I just thought that it was unusual to see a take down.
Chuck said
Thanks. This low wall was manufactured in 1908. I just thought that it was unusual to see a take down.
Winchester made several large batches of Take Down Model 1885s in the 106050 – 107900 serial range. Thus far, I have verified at least 210 were made in 22 LR.
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