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I would like to know any experiences you may have shooting 200gr, or lighter,  jacketed bullets out of the 33. Bullets don’t have to be limited to tubefeed style.  I’m not opposed to a 2 round lever gun. Load info greatly appreciated also. My rifle is a 1910 TD 1886. Thanks for reading. 

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You may wish to try the 200 gr flex tip Hornady bullet.  It works in my takedown 1886 if you will unscrew the magazine tube about one turn.  That bit of extra clearance allows the tip to clear enough to feed reliably.  Else, single load.  Look into using IMR 3031 for about 2100 fps.  Tim

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200 Grain bullets were the standard factory load from day one of production. Like Tim, I load them with IMR 3031 powder (33 grains).

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I would like to know any experiences you may have shooting 200gr, or lighter,  jacketed bullets out of the 33. Bullets don’t have to be limited to tubefeed style.  I’m not opposed to a 2 round lever gun. Load info greatly appreciated also. My rifle is a 1910 TD 1886. Thanks for reading. 

  

Thank you,  Tim and Bert! Does magazine length matter with the FTX, or is it bullet design? Any crystal ball for when they might be available? Have either of you used the Hawk 200gr FN? Your thoughts on the need to crimp,  some say yes,  other’s no need. 

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When loading cartridges for a magazine tube-fed lever action rifle, you must always crimp the bullet.  The FTX bullet is longer than the flat-point bullets traditionally used for the 33 WCF.  You either have to seat them deeper in the case mouth or try what Tim suggested. The goal is to get them to fully clear the magazine tube before the cartridge carrier tries to elevate them up through the action.

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I’d agree with Bert if I were using original 1890’s loading methods.  Which most of the time I am.  But for accuracy I prefer to adjust my expander OD to get the tightest grip I need to keep the bullets from moving. Your accuracy can be improved when not crimping.  I took a universal expander mandrel die and then used a pin gauge as the mandrel.  You need to test how much neck tension you need to keep the bullets from moving. Load powder less and primer less loads into the magazine.  Try smaller pin gauges until you find the one that gives you the tension you need.  To measure neck tension first measure the OD of a sized case then seat a bullet and re measure.  The difference in .001″ is the neck tension. 

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Bert and Chuck, Your knowledge and experience is invaluable! Thank you for your input. I’m looking forward to shooting more of my lever guns.  I have shot scoped rifles for so long my confidence with open sights is lacking. I’ll probably shoot my ’07 1894 30 WCF OCT rifle as a less expensive option to get proficient with open sights. Thank you again. 

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