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TR said
RickC, His Colt is a nice 12k gun listed at 42k, I tried to contact him when it was listed at far less to make an offer and he raised the price. I bought one just as nice made a few months earlier for 9.4k at the next Louisville Show. I don’t think he wants to sell his gun’s or he’s trolling for a fool. T/R
Thomas I was just having this conversation with another collector on here(The seller can always ask whatever he wants), but like you say, trolling for a fool, cuz I think he wants to sell.
RickC
November 19, 2006
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TR said
Thanks Bert, I have never owned a single-shot. I find your comments appreciated and educational. T/R
I echo TR’s comments. I have never owned a (Winchester) single-shot so I have some real knowledge gaps. Fun to fill some of those gaps.
I’ve always enjoyed Winchester single-shot rifles. You just can’t collect them all. What a challenge this rifle reflects – to collect one in each chambering!! Talk about a quest to fill a lifetime. I’ve done that with some other models, such as the Winchester M71 and models 1903, 1905, 1907 and 1910 😉
April 15, 2005
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mrcvs said
That early should have italic calibre markings.
Not true… the caliber markings for all three of the unique Winchester Express cartridges were always the block style versus italic. The same was true for all of the early 22 W.C.F. rifles as well.
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September 22, 2011
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Bert H. said
mrcvs said
That early should have italic calibre markings.Not true… the caliber markings for all three of the unique Winchester Express cartridges were always the block style versus italic. The same was true for all of the early 22 W.C.F. rifles as well.
Okay, I did not realize this was dependent on calibre. I know I had serial number 899 in my hands once at a gun show and it was in italic. I cannot recall what calibre it was in at this time. I want to say .32 W.C.F., but that is a guess as I handled this Single Shot rifle years ago.
April 15, 2005
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mrcvs said
Okay, I did not realize this was dependent on calibre. I know I had serial number 899 in my hands once at a gun show and it was in italic. I cannot recall what calibre it was in at this time. I want to say .32 W.C.F., but that is a guess as I handled this Single Shot rifle years ago.
This is one of many examples were Winchester did not follow any specific pattern, and it also trips up most of the dishonest “fakers” out there. I have in my research files more than (200) individual photos of the various caliber markings used on the Winchester Single Shot barrels.
Bert
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November 7, 2015
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Bert H. said
Fortunately for the astute collector, the people who intentionally build fake Winchesters typically “think” that they are smarter than everyone else when in fact, they are not.
Unfortunately they only have to be smarter than a few…or maybe just one or two.
Mike
November 19, 2006
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TXGunNut said
Unfortunately they only have to be smarter than a few…or maybe just one or two.
Mike
Unfortunately this is very true. There’s not much out there in the big world that is pristine and our collecting field is not going to be different. Caveat Emptor needs to be close at hand. I don’t know this seller so anything I say about what he knows is pure speculation. I have seen many examples where a seller is offering a faked up piece and rather than being the predator, they are the victim. That is, they were the one hoodwinked and purchased the piece priced as though it were all original. They don’t learn what they truly have until they try to sell it 
By the way, I just notice in my subject line, “won” should have been, “one”
steve004 said
Unfortunately this is very true. There’s not much out there in the big world that is pristine and our collecting field is not going to be different. Caveat Emptor needs to be close at hand. I don’t know this seller so anything I say about what he knows is pure speculation. I have seen many examples where a seller is offering a faked up piece and rather than being the predator, they are the victim. That is, they were the one hoodwinked and purchased the piece priced as though it were all original. They don’t learn what they truly have until they try to sell it
By the way, I just notice in my subject line, “won” should have been, “one”
If I’m paying $10k or more for a gun, I’m doing my homework. It’s one thing to acquire an original that shows up with an undisclosed mechanical issue but, I would hope a dealer would be able to identify the identifiable issues with this one & for this much coin. This is a prime example where being a WACA member pays.
November 1, 2013
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steve004 said
I have seen many examples where a seller is offering a faked up piece and rather than being the predator, they are the victim. That is, they were the one hoodwinked and purchased the piece priced as though it were all original.
Poetic justice if they become the “victim”–it’s what all speculators deserve. Were they forced into the gun dealing racket? This is the meaning of “hoist on their own petard.”
November 19, 2006
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clarence said
steve004 said
I have seen many examples where a seller is offering a faked up piece and rather than being the predator, they are the victim. That is, they were the one hoodwinked and purchased the piece priced as though it were all original.Poetic justice if they become the “victim”–it’s what all speculators deserve. Were they forced into the gun dealing racket? This is the meaning of “hoist on their own petard.”
clarence – your comments reflect my sentiments exactly regarding speculators. However, some collectors also put their pieces up for sale – and that’s when the bad news is sometimes revealed. Who knows – I may own pieces where I’ve missed something and once fresh (and expert) eyes are on it, it could be painful.
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