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December 15, 2021 - 1:06 am
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Any resident experts on the maxim silencers rifles. Completely out of my wheelhouse. How long were these made or legal ?

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/winchester-rifles—model-1892/winchester-model-1892-rifle-takedown-threaded-for-the-maxim-silencer.cfm?gun_id=101775717

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RickC said
 How long were these made or legal ? 

Until ’34, when Dems passed the National Firearms Act.  There was a strong belief they’d be removed from NFA restrictions when Repubs took control of Congress, but due to their stupidity & incompetance, that golden opportunity went the way of the Wall.

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Rick,

That rifle was not threaded for a Maxim Silencer by Winchester. Somebody did the dirty deed after the fact.

Maxim began offering silencers in 1908 or 1909, and they were openly available to the public until the NFA of 1934 was enacted into law.

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At one time not too long ago any weapon threaded for a “silencer” could earn the owner some uncomfortable scrutiny and in some jurisdictions a trip to the hoosegow. Hog farmer could have saved himself some trouble by buying a 32WCF. Probably not much louder than a Maxim-equipped 25-20 but I honestly don’t know. Today’s critters don’t seem to be alarmed much by most sub-sonic rounds regardless of whether a suppressor is used. With my degree of hearing loss a suppressor merely changes the sound signature of a gunshot. I’ve documented hearing “silenced” .300BO gunshots from over .5 miles. I’ve also observed deer missed by subsonic but unsuppressed rounds linger around long enough for more effective shots to be fired. 

I’m sorry, Rick. I totally sidestepped your question as my experience is with LE/military grade modern suppressors. Apparently the rifle was modified after it left the factory so for most collectors it’s a moot point. I think Hollywood turned a viable hunting accessory into an evil bit of hardware but until we overcome that prejudice more people will experience hearing loss needlessly. 

(Stepping off soapbox and toddling off to bed.)

 

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Thanks guys that’s more than I knew before about & once again the importance of a letter…if they actually lettered. I’ve never seen one threaded by Winchester.

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My Winchester 06 with factory setup for Maxim Silencer. 

The factory used press-on fitting from Maxim for guns order with

Silencer. interrupted threads which are blued.

 Non factory adapters don’t have blued threads.

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There may be a way to legally own one of the suppressors in some states.  Some allow it through a registration process.

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There may be a way to legally own one of the suppressors in some states.  Some allow it through a registration process.  

You can in most states, actually, but it’s a complicated & expensive process, the same as for acquiring a machine-gun, & ATF has no doubt been made to “understand” that apps are to receive the lowest possible priority.  Best way to handle it, if you can afford to do so, is simply hand it over to a lawyer to process the app.

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 I owned three Winchester’s that were threaded for a Maxim silencer. Only one appeared to be factory work, quality and real blue in threads. It was a 1886 in 45-70, takedown, octagon, and shotgun butt. The gun was in good shape, but rifling very worn. It had been set back to Winchester a couple times. I never owned or wanted to own the silencer.

 I eventually came to realize the Maxim thing was a negative to value and let them go. T/R

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One of the cast members of “Life Below Zero” on NatGeo hunts with silencer-equipped stainless Ruger 77.  Looks 9-10 in. long, so probably pretty effective.  He can afford it–he’s paid 200 Gs a yr for “roughing it.” 

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I would never thread one of my old Winchesters but that’s not the first 92 I’ve seen like that from that same seller, he had a 44WCF about 4 months ago or so. 
I do hunt with my friend we both use them and here are his kids hunting with us, my 458 SOCOM on the left and his 300BO on the right.  I have about 50% hearing loss in and I really like them but my days of saving my hearing is over.  They will never come off the NFA list as there is way too much money to be lost if that ever happened.  Shooting subs in both of these AR’s in the picture makes a huge difference but for hunting we shoot supersonics 99% of the time.

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There’s a photo to make Joe & Kamala gasp in horror!!!

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There’s a photo to make Joe & Kamala gasp in horror!!!  

Lol.

No different in Canada. Our supreme commander/drama teacher/tree hugger/soccer mom leader just set aside 1 billion to ban hand guns…the legal registered ones!!

https://apple.news/AtGiggH3nQsCPXo6fWvSxxg

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Lol.

No different in Canada. Our supreme commander/drama teacher/tree hugger/soccer mom leader just set aside 1 billion to ban hand guns…the legal registered ones!!

https://apple.news/AtGiggH3nQsCPXo6fWvSxxg  

That’s the way it always works:  Step 1, Registration; Step 2, Confiscation.

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I think Our Man is going to have difficulties getting those Handguns out of the hands of us old guys, Maybe He should start chasing downs some legit criminals with that $1,000,000,000.00, that use the illegal handguns for bad purposes, of course that would make sense and that is something that fella doesn’t have.

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RickC said
Any resident experts on the maxim silencers rifles. Completely out of my wheelhouse. How long were these made or legal ?

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/winchester-rifles—model-1892/winchester-model-1892-rifle-takedown-threaded-for-the-maxim-silencer.cfm?gun_id=101775717  

This rifle is ridiculously overpriced.  

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