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Winchester Model 1894 Locking Bolt
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Has anyone ever seen a gold colored locking bolt on an early 1894 (manufactured around 1904)?

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No, I have not. The locking bolt should be blued.

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Only thing like that I’ve seen, was were the whole receiver was gold washed.

If just the bolt is gold in color and that all, with no other features, I suspect the bolt is off a commemorative rifle. Or someone was just playing around with finishes on the parts.

I highly doubt it to be original.

Do you have any pictures of it?

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A little off the original topic here, but what about this one with a gold washed hammer, trigger, and grip cap screw?  Factory original or no?

http://merzantiques.com/item/winchester-1894-special-order-rifle

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I’d love to see what a Cody Letter would say? I believe it is in the letterable range.

Also the ARMAX lists 56 guns with “Gold plated or trimmed”.

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[email protected] said
Has anyone ever seen a gold colored locking bolt on an early 1894 (manufactured around 1904)?

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That effect can also be obtained if it is burnished with a brass Dremel brush, as in removing light rust.

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Wincacher said

That effect can also be obtained if it is burnished with a brass Dremel brush, as in removing light rust.  

Really? You know this from experience or something? A Dremel Brush should leave some markings, Should it not?

I don’t know about the checkering on the stocks. The serial number is not listed under “Carved Stocks” in the ARMAX. But this look like “H” pattern checkering, and I’m not entirely sure that would’ve been noted in the ledger anyway.

Still I’d like to see a Cody Letter on it.

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Maverick said

Really? You know this from experience or something? A Dremel Brush should leave some markings, Should it not?

I don’t know about the checkering on the stocks. The serial number is not listed under “Carved Stocks” in the ARMAX. But this look like “H” pattern checkering, and I’m not entirely sure that would’ve been noted in the ledger anyway.

Still I’d like to see a Cody Letter on it.

Sincerely,

Maverick  

Actually, I do know this from experience.  The Dremel rotary brass brush on small parts will remove light rust and and caked on dirt plus leave a light “gold wash” appearance that can be partially removed but not entirely.  Also, the brass bristles are much softer than the gun part so they don’t scratch.

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Wincacher said

Actually, I do know this from experience.  The Dremel rotary brass brush on small parts will remove light rust and and caked on dirt plus leave a light “gold wash” appearance that can be partially removed but not entirely.  Also, the brass bristles are much softer than the gun part so they don’t scratch.  

Well please by all means indulge with a picture of your Dremel Gold Wash technique. 

I never said the brass would “scratch” steel, the rotation of the dremel should leave markings on the brass its leaving behind in the direction of which the head is spinning. Should it not? 

If you think that you can replicate the way that Hammer looks on that rifle with a dremel, I’d love to see a picture of it.

I’m familiar with what brass does to metal, I use a brass hammer all the time on my guns. A brass hammer is the best way to remove sights and pins without making serious damage. 

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Maverick 

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Amen on the brass hammer!  Hate those dinged up sight dovetails.  The little brass color left by the hammer or drift is nothing compared to the disfigured part.

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