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Sorry, if this is a duplicate, I’m not sure if the first one went through or not. My most recent model, 43 deluxe had a different pistol, grip caps and my others. All of my others have a black plastic, pistol grip cap that has the Winchester name around the edges. This one had a smooth black metal cap, I can send pictures if necessary, just wanted to know if they had different caps or if this may have been put on later. 

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Hello Tim,

The late production Model 43 Special rifles were indeed fitted with a smooth blued steel pistol grip cap versus the more common black rubber cap with the Winchester logo.  The attached picture is the grip cap on S/N 51245.  I have documented (8) Model 43 Specials with the steel grip caps thus far.

What is the S/N on your Model 43 Special?

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Hello Tim,

The late production Model 43 Special rifles were indeed fitted with a smooth blued steel pistol grip cap versus the more common black rubber cap with the Winchester logo.  The attached picture is the grip cap on S/N 51245.  I have documented (8) Model 43 Specials with the steel grip caps thus far.

What is the S/N on your Model 43 Special?

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57113.  Thanks for your help!

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Just starting to get into this model 43 collecting thing. I think I know the basics, but why are the 32–20 caliber rifles so hard to find?  What were their production numbers compared to the other calibers? I have found a few 25 – 20s and obviously the hornets and bees are a lot easier, But where can I get my hands on a 32–20? 

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When I wrote my original Model 43 article (for the WACA collector magazine) back in Spring of 2016, the ratio of calibers was as shown below.  At that time, I had only surveyed (479) rifles.

Observed Cartridge Chambering Totals & Percentages (Spring 2016)

 

Caliber

22 Hornet 218 BEE 25-20 WIN. 32 WIN. Total  

Qty.

240 200 21 18

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% 50.10% 41.75% 4.38% 3.76%

100%

 
   

Extrapolated Cartridge Chambering Totals

 

Caliber

22 Hornet 218 BEE 25-20 WIN. 32 WIN.

Total

 

Qty.

31,309 26,090 2,739 2,348

62,617

Today, I currently have 1,689 Model 43 rifles documented in the survey, and the caliber totals are as shown below;

Observed Cartridge Chambering Totals & Percentages (May 2023)
Caliber 218 BEE 22 HORNET 25-20 WIN. 32 WIN. 22 WMR Total
        32-20 WIN.    
Qty. 767 750 94 75 3 1,689
% 45.41% 44.40% 5.57% 4.44% 0.18% 100%

As you can see, the 32 Win (32-30) was the least produced of the four standard cartridges.  That undoubtedly is why you are not readily finding them.

I would appreciate learning more about your collection of Model 43 rifles.

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Tim Weaver_1 said

Bert H. said

Hello Tim,

The late production Model 43 Special rifles were indeed fitted with a smooth blued steel pistol grip cap versus the more common black rubber cap with the Winchester logo.  The attached picture is the grip cap on S/N 51245.  I have documented (8) Model 43 Specials with the steel grip caps thus far.

What is the S/N on your Model 43 Special?

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That makes it a July 1953 production rifle… which cartridge is it chambered for?

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25-20 standard.  27xxx

25-20 standard 47xx

218 Bee Deluxe 19xxx ( with original box)

22 Hornet standard 44xxx

22 Hornet Deluxe 57xxx

22 Hornet Deluxe 12xxx

22 Hornet Deluxe 33xxx

22 Hornet standard 56xxx.  Somebody refinished standard stock and re checkered it to look like Deluxe.  They did a beautiful job, but forgot to add the pistol grip cap.  Not sure if they meant to deceive someone or to just make a nice looking gun.

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Please send me an email with the complete serial number for each rifle.  That information is needed for the accuracy of the survey.  If you would prefer, you can send the information to me in a PM or email.

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I just picked up a Model 43. Serial # 15820. Any idea when it was made?

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I just picked up a Model 43. Serial # 15820. Any idea when it was made?

  

November 1949. 

Which cartridge is it chambered for?

Which variation is it?

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