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OK fellas thoughts on this “carbine”? The barrel is 20″. No marks from a front band nor band screw. Original?

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1162118436

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Probably is original , these short mag. s.r.c.’s are not rare but not common either. I have 2, 1 that letters and one too late to letter20260421_084820.jpg20260421_084826.jpg

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Yes it is original, it has the 2/3 mag with the round mag tip, less popular than the 1/2 mag and often seen with a shotgun butt like that. I have one in the exact configuration. 

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mark minnillo said
OK fellas thoughts on this “carbine”? The barrel is 20″. No marks from a front band nor band screw. Original?
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1162118436
  

Not much finish. Thoughts on value?

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He wanted 900 with no bids, maybe try to call and offer 700. It’s not a bad looking carbine, used but not abused. Henry’s carbines have a lot more finish and the PGs are much higher!!

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mark minnillo said
OK fellas thoughts on this “carbine”? The barrel is 20″. No marks from a front band nor band screw. Original?
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1162118436
  

It is a typical “Eastern” Carbine, with a 2/3 mag and shotgun butt.  Currently, I have (196) of them documented in my survey.  The 2/3 mag length was more common than the 1/2 mag length by a 2:1 ratio.

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Bert H. said

mark minnillo said
OK fellas thoughts on this “carbine”? The barrel is 20″. No marks from a front band nor band screw. Original?
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1162118436
  

It is a typical “Eastern” Carbine, with a 2/3 mag and shotgun butt.  Currently, I have (196) of them documented in my survey.  The 2/3 mag length was more common than the 1/2 mag length by a 2:1 ratio.
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Hi Bert,

In your survey with regards to 2/3 mag with shotgun butt, how many of those 196 have a fluted comb.  Is there any correlation between those with fluted comb having a hard rubber buttplate versus those unfluted with a different style buttplate?  If I remember, hopefully correctly, you start seeing these eastern carbines in this configureation in about the 600K serial range (eastern carbine, shotgun butt, fluted comb, 2/3 magazine, mostly in 30WCF but I think maybe also 32WS only). 

Just curious, They arent rare by any stretch, but are a bit different in the sense they have a fluted comb with a common configuration.  

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Hi Bert,
In your survey with regards to 2/3 mag with shotgun butt, how many of those 196 have a fluted comb.  Is there any correlation between those with fluted comb having a hard rubber buttplate versus those unfluted with a different style buttplate?  If I remember, hopefully correctly, you start seeing these eastern carbines in this configureation in about the 600K serial range (eastern carbine, shotgun butt, fluted comb, 2/3 magazine, mostly in 30WCF but I think maybe also 32WS only). 
Just curious, They arent rare by any stretch, but are a bit different in the sense they have a fluted comb with a common configuration.  
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Chris
  

Nearly all of Carbines with the fluted comb butt stock also has a shotgun butt.  While the black hard rubber BP is the most common of the shotgun butts, the smooth steel, checkered steel, serrated steel butt plates were also used with the fluted comb stocks.  The key is the shotgun butt.  The fluted comb stocks began to appear in the later 500,000 serial range (latter half of the year 1911), and they became commonly used in the 600,000+ serial range.  The fluted comb stocks were put into standard production in 1924 (Models 53 and 55).

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