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Winchester 1894: 23” barrel
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December 14, 2018 - 11:23 am
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I’m assuming this one has been cut, but thought I’d post pics here to get opinions. 

The round barrel measure 23” (the odd number length was my first red flag). 

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December 14, 2018 - 2:08 pm
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Judging by the placement of the mag holder and front site I would say it’s been shortened and the barrel has been re-dovetailed for the front site. Is your last picture of the gun in question? I would say not with the matted barrel and forend wood.

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December 14, 2018 - 3:06 pm
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The last pic is part of my profile “signature?”. 

Its a model 71 deluxe long tang with a roll matted barrel. The forearm wood grain is pretty amazing on it, no doubt to accent the barrel feature. 

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Good morning,

Absolutely cut down!  Regardless of the barrel length, or style, the front sight and magazine retaining band should be positioned as in the attached photos.

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December 14, 2018 - 3:26 pm
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I can’t tell by the pics but that gun may not necessarily been shortened, even though the site and the magazine band seem to be misplaced I believe they made 6, 23″ rifles that letter, I had an engraved one, and who knows how many they made after. I would have to do all the measurements on it and check the machining to form an opinion. What ser# range and is it a short  8 3/8″ forestock, what cal. , does it have a tang site?

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twobit said
Good morning,

Absolutely cut down!  Regardless of the barrel length, or style, the front sight and magazine retaining band should be positioned as in the attached photos.

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Michael, thank you for the clear pictures. 

So is it safe to say that all sporting rifle configuration 1894s have a retaining band that is (3 5/8” ?) on center from the face of the muzzle, even in special order lengths?

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Henry Mero said
I can’t tell by the pics but that gun may not necessarily been shortened, even though the site and the magazine band seem to be misplaced I believe they made 6, 23″ rifles that letter, I had an engraved one, and who knows how many they made after. I would have to do all the measurements on it and check the machining to form an opinion. What ser# range and is it a short  8 3/8″ forestock, what cal. , does it have a tang site?  

The serial number is 563530.

I’ll get better measurements tonight for reference. 

I imagine it’s been cut, but I’m not an 1894 efficianado by any stretch. 

 

All input and insight is appreciated!

thanks

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Joel Goodrich said

The serial number is 563530.

I’ll get better measurements tonight for reference. 

I imagine it’s been cut, but I’m not an 1894 efficianado by any stretch. 

 

All input and insight is appreciated!

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Joel,

That is correct.  I have 2 of those 6, 23 inch barreled 1894’s  but each has a shorter than full length magazine!!  I have a few 22 inch, full length magazine 1892’s and 1894’s and the magazine retaining ring is positioned as shown in the photos.  

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December 14, 2018 - 11:51 pm
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 I bought a 1894 23″ barrel deluxe from one of my wife’s relatives at deer camp in Michigan’s U.P. It was 1/2 octagon, full magazine, pistol grip, SB, checkered, 30WCF, and all original. S/N 183894 lettered correct and I like a fool sold during a weak moment to a fellow 94 collector. I can’t tell from my old photo’s how long the forearm was, it’s been over ten years and I can’t remember. T/R

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December 15, 2018 - 1:35 am
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Thank you twobit and TR

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