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Winchester 1892 with Satin and Nickel Accents
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December 14, 2022 - 3:05 pm
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Anyone know if Winchester Factory was putting satin and nickel accents on the Model 1892 during the 1920’s? This is a 1929 Model 1892 in 32 WCF that has what appears to be nickel loading tube, loading gate, lever and trigger with satin finish forend cap, loading rod connectors.  

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Factory did offer what was called “Nickle Plated Trimmings” which might be what you have there, but depends on what was included in “trimmings.”  Seems doubtful, however, some parts would be bright & others “satin.”  More than likely, not original.

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One way to tell is by the quality and age of the finish.

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That the mag tube would be included in “trimmings” seems unlikely to me.  Even if it was, what a garish combination!  I don’t even like full nickel, but a mixture of blued & nickel would be an eyesore.  Esp. when the nickel started peeling, as it often did.

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  When the parts that are plated are easily removed like side plates, hammer, lever, or mag tube, it makes me think Winchester didn’t do it. You can’t get a letter that late in 92 production so the gun would have to look original and right. T/R

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Anyone know if Winchester Factory was putting satin and nickel accents on the Model 1892 during the 1920’s? This is a 1929 Model 1892 in 32 WCF that has what appears to be nickel loading tube, loading gate, lever and trigger with satin finish forend cap, loading rod connectors.  

  

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Can you post some images of the rifle or send them to me at [email protected]    I will be happy to take a look.

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Thanks everyone for their input on this. I cannot confirm the factory configuration, because as TR pointed out, you cannot get a factor letter.  With all the ones that I have, this does not look original!  It’s good to get other opinions and share information.  I am going to work on provenance so I may find out when and who did it, you never know!

TwoBit (Michael) I emailed you a link to the photos on my onedrive!

 

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Thanks everyone for their input on this. I cannot confirm the factory configuration, because as TR pointed out, you cannot get a factor letter.  With all the ones that I have, this does not look original!  It’s good to get other opinions and share information.  I am going to work on provenance so I may find out when and who did it, you never know!

TwoBit (Michael) I emailed you a link to the photos on my onedrive!

 

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Dennis

  

Hello Dennis,

I received the images.  I saw that rifle listed back in January of 2017 at Cochran Auctions.  The rifle haas absolutely been totally refinished from butt plate to muzzle.  I would wager all the money I could put on a table top that the nickel portions are absolutely not factory original.  Winchester was assembling a batch of takedown sporting rifle in either 25-20 or 32 WCF caliber at this time and was using up earlier produced barrels with the Type 3 address stamp positioned on the left side of the barrel just above the metal forend cap.  All other barrel configurations at this time had the address stamp on the right side of the barrel just in front of the receiver face.  Since these older barrels had no Model designation stamped on them and there was non on the upper tang at this time the Model designation was stamped just below the rear sight.  The rifle that I have found like yours are in the spread sheet below and indicated by the blue 3&4 cell below the “Bar Add” column.  Your rifle’s SN is highlighted in yellow.

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Not merely a complete refinish, but a crude & sloppy one. 

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