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As others have said above, some of those parts are going to be hard to find like the forearm wood, magazine tube ring, and forend cap for a small caliber rifle (25-20 or 32-20) because the magazine tube is smaller diameter than the large caliber rifles (small caliber at left, large caliber at right). And the forearm wood will need to be for an octagon barrel.
The magazine tube you currently have appears to be a replacement based on the blue color–or maybe its just got a lot more blue than the barrel. Magazine tubes in small calibers are tough to find as well. Does the magazine tube have an end cap, follower, and spring? Depending on the DOM the end cap can be of two different types (Early style on right, later on left). You can tell on you rifle barrel whether it has a slot cut into the barrel to accept the end of the magazine cap or is drilled all the way and there is a countersunk hole to accept the end of the screw that goes all the way through the magazine cap. Either way, there should be one or the other on the underside of the barrel. If neither a slot or recessed hole exist, then it was likely a 1/2 magazine rifle. If thats the case, then the standard forend cap will not work. Need the forend and button for a half magazine.
Best place to look for parts would be ebay or gunbroker. Or if you find a rifle that has a cut barrel or drilled receiver cheap, harvest the parts off of it.
As far as the 25-20 is concerned, there are a bunch of them out there. With 1/2 octagon barrels, there are far fewer, but most that you see have 1/2 magazines. Just my opinion, the 1/2 octagon barrel with full magazine combination are harder to find on the 1892 and is more desirable, than 1/2 magazine rifles, unless they have a full octagon barrel.
Chris
1892takedown @sbcglobal.net ......NRA Endowment Life Member.....WACA Member
"God is great.....beer is good.....and people are crazy"... Billy Currington
You are a legend!!!! I am almost off work but i am going to read through all of this when i get home. Thanks a ton for taking the time to type that.
Alright again thanks for all of this information. I took a few more photos and as far as the magazine tube, youve got me wondering now if its even the right one. It does seem too large but i honestly know nothing about the 25-20 round so maybe someone can weigh in. The bluing doesnt seem much different from the rest of the gun but to the untrained eye, i may not be seeing something. Here are the new photos: Updated Photos
The outside diameter for a small caliber magazine tube is 1/2″, whereas the large caliber is 5/8″. I cant tell from the photos of your magazine tube, but on the underside, that fits against the barrel, there should be a seam the full length from end to end if original (you can make out this seam in the pics above). If not, its a later replacement tube.
I made a mistake above in forgetting that you were looking for a magazine retaining band – where I was talking about determining whether it was a full or half magazine–disregard.
From the pics it also appears the magazine tube end cap is not the correct one. Here are both styles below. Note that one is slotted and will have a short screw, the other is not slotted and will have a long screw that passes through the end cap, the end of the screw will not be threaded but will be rounded and sets into the recess hole on the underside of the barrel when fully tightened.
1892takedown @sbcglobal.net ......NRA Endowment Life Member.....WACA Member
"God is great.....beer is good.....and people are crazy"... Billy Currington
For got to add, the magazine tube length for a rifle with a 24″ barrel should be 23 5/8″.
1892takedown @sbcglobal.net ......NRA Endowment Life Member.....WACA Member
"God is great.....beer is good.....and people are crazy"... Billy Currington
Looks like the magazine tube is the right length and size. Based on the slot at the bottom of the barrel at the muzzle, it takes earlier style magazine tub cap.
1892takedown @sbcglobal.net ......NRA Endowment Life Member.....WACA Member
"God is great.....beer is good.....and people are crazy"... Billy Currington
Hello all,
I will be happy to help in any way I can. I have been busy in northern Michigan at the cottage and bike riding. Let me try to play catch up on this and I will comment. My email for photos is [email protected]
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
I agree with the info which 1892 Takedown has provided. The correct magazine end cap will definitely be the slotted or tab type. The following listings on Gunbroker are from sellers who frequently “part out” guns so you might send them a message asking about the parts you need. I would get a fore end and butt stock from the same rifle since your butt stock is sanded and broken.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/820028378
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/821488834
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/822449597
Best of luck. I will get back on the % of production for the 25-20 and the half OB configurations.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
Micheal thank you! I have been out with the kids hold panning so i will send you an email later this evening and pick your brain some more. Thanks again!
Hello Ender,
Well it took a couple of days but I finally got around to doing the math. Of the 12,952 Model 1892 rifles for which I have caliber information 3,897 are chambered in 25-20WCF which calculates to being 30.2% of the total production. This is obviously a long, long, long way from the 4% number you had read from some place.
Now things start to get a bit messy. I have 12,998 total rifles for which I know the configuration. The 1/2 Round configuration rifles (273) make up 2.04% of that total. BUT… since saddle ring carbines never ever had that option then maybe the more correct number to look at is is the % of the sporting rifles and that number is 3.02% of the sporting rifles had 1/2 round barrels.
Furthermore, of the 273 1/2 round configurations 95 were chambered in 25-20 and that calculates to 34.8% of the 1/2 round barreled sporting rifles were produced in 25-20WCF caliber.
I hope this helps.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
where would a 1892 takedown HR-HO 24″ barrel with half magazine in 38 WCF # 777961 be in the 1892 production numbers ? thanks.
correction, 2/3 magazine tube on 1892 rifle in 38-40 # 777961
eastbank said
correction, 2/3 magazine tube on 1892 rifle in 38-40 # 777961
Good morning,
Your rifle actually has a 1/2 magazine not a 2/3. The 1/2 magazine on a TD rifle is by design a bit longer than that found on a solid frame rifle due to the fact that the takedown lever is present.
Of the 273 1/2 round sporting rifles I have cataloged 66 are 38 WCF. Eleven of those are takedown frames and all but three are 1/2 mags.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
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