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Winchester 1892 rifle, .38 WCF, 1906
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Here’s one I haven’t photographed before.  Serial number applied 28 July 1906, no other information available due to a gap in the records.  Round barrel, full magazine, shotgun butt, capped pistol grip stock, no checkering.

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That is a very nice looking Model 1892 Rifle Cool.  I was unaware of a serial number gap in the ledger records somewhere in the 344000 – 344500 range.

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Bert H. said
That is a very nice looking Model 1892 Rifle Cool.  I was unaware of a serial number gap in the ledger records somewhere in the 344000 – 344500 range.  

So was I!

Here’s the serial number ranges for the 1892:

• 1-344149 (W & SNA)
• 345050-374850 (W & SNA)
• 376149-379999 (W & SNA)
• 380000-917240 (SNA)
• 1006822-1007608 (SNA)

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According to the above, 344,310 is in a range where not only a letter cannot be had, but supposedly no SNA date, either, but Jesi was able to provide that:

WINCHESTER MODEL 1892 – SERIAL NUMBER 344310
Serial number applied on July 28, 1906
No configuration information available
Gap in records from SN 344150 thru 345049

Bert, it sure sounds like a survey of these non letterable dates may be necessary.😄

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mrcvs said

Bert H. said

That is a very nice looking Model 1892 Rifle Cool.  I was unaware of a serial number gap in the ledger records somewhere in the 344000 – 344500 range.  

So was I!

Here’s the serial number ranges for the 1892:

• 1-344149 (W & SNA)

• 345050-374850 (W & SNA)

• 376149-379999 (W & SNA)

• 380000-917240 (SNA)

• 1006822-1007608 (SNA)

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According to the above, 344,310 is in a range where not only a letter cannot be had, but supposedly no SNA date, either, but Jesi was able to provide that:

WINCHESTER MODEL 1892 – SERIAL NUMBER 344310

Serial number applied on July 28, 1906

No configuration information available

Gap in records from SN 344150 thru 345049

Bert, it sure sounds like a survey of these non letterable dates may be necessary.😄

  

Michael (2bit) is actively surveying all of the Model 1892s.

That is a sizeable gap in the warehouse ledger records (900 serial numbers).  Based on my past research, No serial number gaps exist in the SNA records anywhere in the 300000 – 400000 range.  The SNA records at the CFM are complete for all serial numbers in the 1 – 917240 range.  It is my understanding that Pauline M. has the SNA records covering the 917241+ serial numbers.

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Ian,

Like was said previously, that’s a nice hard to find honest mode 1892, in nice condition. Most of the 92’s out there are pretty worn, with a lot less finish, or at least some flaking of the bluing finish.

Thanks for sharing,

 

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Ian – that’s a darn nice rifle!  I like everything about it.

The features remind me of a .25-20 I have here.  Pistol grip, grip cap, uncheckered wood, shotgun butt, round barrel.

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steve004 said
Ian – that’s a darn nice rifle!  I like everything about it.

The features remind me of a .25-20 I have here.  Pistol grip, grip cap, uncheckered wood, shotgun butt, round barrel.

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Does this one have a letter?

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mrcvs said

steve004 said

Ian – that’s a darn nice rifle!  I like everything about it.

The features remind me of a .25-20 I have here.  Pistol grip, grip cap, uncheckered wood, shotgun butt, round barrel.

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Does this one have a letter?

  

Yes, it is quite a bit earlier – 179,000 range.  Letter states made 1-25-02 and shipped 1-27-02 on order #130752.  “Plain” trigger, “plain wood with pistol grip, shotgun butt, rubber buttplate”; caliber 25-20, rifle, half-octagon.”  

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Very nice Ian,  a smooth PG is uncommon, if I have termed that correctly. 

Here is a smooth PG carbine I have in 32wcf. Also have an 86 smooth PG in 33wcf, I like them alot as I don’t see them often

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Very nice Ian,  a smooth PG is uncommon, if I have termed that correctly. 

Here is a smooth PG carbine I have in 32wcf. Also have an 86 smooth PG in 33wcf, I like them alot as I don’t see them often

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Tom –  very nice carbine!  I also love the letter – 1968!

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Very nice Ian,  a smooth PG is uncommon, if I have termed that correctly. 

Here is a smooth PG carbine I have in 32wcf. Also have an 86 smooth PG in 33wcf, I like them alot as I don’t see them often

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Tom,

That’s a nice carbine!

I also have an 1886 with a pistol grip and no checkering and it’s in .45-70!

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Those are some great 92’s that you guy’s are sharing! The letters verifying always is a nice added touch. I also agree, with the hard to find plain pistol grip, and or the checkered pistol grip, in a Deluxe version, also being hard to find. My point being, even though none are the checkered Deluxe version, there isn’t a serious collector in the group that would turn any of those down, Especially in the condition that you guys have shared. Rarity absolutely comes to mind, with all of them. You just don’t see them, that often. Thanks again for sharing.

 

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Continuing the theme of shotgun butts and plain pistol grips, here’s an 1886 .33 WCF I have with SGB and plain pistol grip.  It letters with,  “1/2 magazine, plain pistol grip and shotgun butt rubber.”  Circa 1906.  I have it paired with a full magazine, takedown .33 that letters. 

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Steve,

Those are some nice honest very clean looking Winchesters. I’m loving it that they letter the way they we’re ordered, and the shotgun butts look great on them. That plain pistol grip stock looks nice on that rifle.

 

Thanks for sharing the photos.

 

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Tony –

Thanks for the comments.  I’m waiting for someone to ask me about the last photo I posted – it has three rifles in it.  Two of them are the ones I’ve already posted, but the other rifle…. it’s not a M1886 Surprised

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Okay I’ll bite! LOL!

 

What is it Steve?   I could guess, as a few ideas are in my head. Confused

 

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Okay I’ll bite! LOL!

 

What is it Steve?   I could guess, as a few ideas are in my head. Confused

 

Anthony

  

Tony – 

I was speculating that no one would guess it’s actually a M1894 SRC (and .32 Special at that Cool):

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I like this large style shotgun butt a lot on this carbine.  It’s interesting how similar in dimensions it is to the larger rifle (the M1886).  I suspect most thought it was just another M1886 in the photo.  

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Steve,

That’s a great representation. For a 94 Carbine to be in that condition, is always desirable. Pretty neat in the .32 Special Caliber also.

I like it! Smile

 

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Steve,

That’s a great representation. For a 94 Carbine to be in that condition, is always desirable. Pretty neat in the .32 Special Caliber also.

I like it! Smile

 

Anthony

  

Tony, glad you like it.  Remember, the .32 Special fan club here is not overflowing with members.  But that said, we’re always looking for new recruits!  I seriously like this carbine a whole lot better in .32 Special than were it in .30 WCF.  

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