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Yes, Winchester did make part-octagon barrels, and your Winchester 1892 is a late production gun, as evidenced by the barrel and tang markings. Having said that, can you please post better pictures of this firearm, especially of the interface between the round and octagon part of the barrel as there are sometimes those that are ‘created’ from an existing octagon barrel and this could be the case with yours. This does not occur all that often, but sometimes it does. Your firearm would be unusual in that it contains a late production barrel that is part-round, part-octagon, as this feature usually was on much earlier guns. There are condition issues, however, and the receiver sight would also detrimentally affect the value.
Hello Sam,
Yes the barrel is original to the rifle. The 2 line barrel address is properly positioned for an original half round/octagon barrel configuration. The barrel address position is located more to the left (toward the muzzle) on original octagon barrels and if one has been turned down to half round you can always tell by this incorrect position. Can I get the serial number of the rifle so that I can add it into my research survey. The caliber stamp position, proof stamp occurrence and tang stamp style puts it roughly in the 418000 to 518000 range. That is 1908 to early 1910 manufacture range. Earlier than this the caliber stamp is located on the top of the barrel. Later than this the barrel address appears on the left side also.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
This rifle was drill and tap to install a peep sight by some company in Tacoma, Washington the serial number is 475097, I did check with the Blue Book indicated this rifle was made in 1909, I want to get a letter from Cody Museum but someone told me most of the Winchester lever gun was lost in the fire, the only thing I can get just a shipping date, ordered number, caliber and when it ship to warehouse will not get to said it have 1/2 octagon barrel.
The bore is in excellent shape in rust or pitting, I did used bore scope to look through very carefully, it look like never been used much at all. I plane to hva it re-blue and restore to original by some one I met at Bozeman gun shoe he from Cody, he look like very nice older person, I still gun shine from the first one.
Here some more pictures: Please click at the picture to enlage.
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Sam,
Cody will only have the date the serial number was applied for that gun. They will not have its configuration from the warehouse ledger for a gun in that serial number. I find it odd that Sheard would stamp its name so it would be partially covered by the sight. I’m guessing Sheard did not drill and tap it.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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Hello Sam,
The receiver was serialized on Feb 2, 1909. As Bob mentioned this is the only additional information available from Cody. I have entered your rifle into my database and noticed that SN 475099 ( two numbers away from yours) was a sporting rifle with a 28 inch half round barrel, button mag, in 25-20 WCF caliber and was last sold at Julia’s Auction in Sept. 2012. Your rifle is marked correctly for its serial number range. The nickel steel barrel is a definite plus as these are quite uncommon on Model 1892 rifles.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
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