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I looked at a 94 vintage 1873 today in 32 with a 30″ barrel that’s seen a good bit of use but still solid. On the left side plate it is inscribed ” Buffalo Bills Wild West”. It’s in an oval shape and looks just this one without the stars and name. Any ideas on being able to prove provenance?
http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/65/lid/1007 I’m trying to get the pic off my phone to post but having difficulties.
The one on RIA is not engraved but acid etched. is this one acid etched?
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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It shows that your are a guest not a member so you will not be able to directly upload pictures. You will have to use a third party hosting site and then link to them.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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Walter,
Your correct, the one on RIA has been redone but I haven’t seen mikec’s yet.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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Walter,
There are lots of people that out there that have no clue to what is original condition or don’t even know that it affects the value of the gun.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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1873man said
It shows that your are a guest not a member so you will not be able to directly upload pictures. You will have to use a third party hosting site and then link to them.Bob
I’ve been a member on this forum for almost 10 years. How can I not be a guest?
You need to contact one of the administrators to get your membership straightened out with the forum but your showing as a WACA Guest according to the forum. They were lots of people including mine that had their membership messed up when they converted to the new forum. With me I had a old email address that I gave when I started to get the magazines and by the time I decided to get on the forum my email had changed so I had 2 accounts in the system.
If you want you email the photos to me at the address below and I can post them.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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Mikec:
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Louis Luttrell said
FWIW, you have to be both an active WACA member (dues current) AND be logged in using your member ID/password for all the member features to be enabled. I have made the mistake several times of starting a post while not logged in and finding that I’m showing as “guest”. Maybe I’m just not very bright!!!
I’ve done this too. I’m more familiar with the “v-bulletins forum format” which seems to be a little easier to maneuver in. I use it for my CKCA knife forum.
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Here is the picture of Mikec gun. The gun has a old original look to it but the side plate looks a little worse that the rest. The problem with this type of etching or engraving just on the side plate that can be moved to any 73. First step is to letter the gun and see what it says.
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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Bob,
Correct me if I am wrong, but I have not seen a reference or photos of Winchester using acid etching engraving. As I recall, Colt used acid etching on some pre 1900 pistols on the left side of the barrel for caliber markings. SSA, 1877, 1878 and others.
Walter
I agree with Walter… I am unaware of Winchester ever using “acid” etching versus cut engraving.
Bert (still in Cody)
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Walter,
I have never seen Winchester itself use a acid etch either. I would imaging it was done by a outside party at a later date.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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1873man said
Walter,I have never seen Winchester itself use a acid etch either. I would imaging it was done by a outside party at a later date.
Bob
I agree. If you look at the link I posted it even states that it was done later. I called Cody and it doesn’t address the acid etching. I’m guess I’m just trying to figure out if its period etched.
Hi,
If Cody can’t answer your question, that is a tough question. Are Buffalo Bill fakes becoming the old Wells Fargo fakes?
Walter
I take it you don’t own the gun yet from what you stated in the the first post so you can’t open it up and look inside to see if there are any special stampings linking the sideplates to the gun, my guess there isn’t going to be. Just from looking at its condition it looks like the etching was done quite a while ago but you can’t tell how long ago. I did some searching on the Buffalo Bill Show and it says in 1893 they changed the name of the show to Buffalo Bill’s Wild West and Congress of Rough Riders of the World and if this gun is a 1894 gun I would think they would of put the new name on it. It would take a lot of research into the Buffalo Bill show to find anything linking the gun to the him.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
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