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WHAT IS THE FACTORY POSITION OF A NIB WINCHESTER 94?
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How did the Winchester Model 94 come from the factory? I have seen many NIB for sale and here are some photos. I own the third one from the left. Six and seven from the left would be my guess which is the correct packaging. 

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The box types changed throughout the production run.  It is not possible to determine if the boxed guns in the pictures you posted are original or not.  The serial numbers on each gun would be a place to start, as it would tell us the production time period.  Next, I would want to examine the end labels on each box.

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Hi Bert,

The boxes are original with labels matching the serial number of the rifle. I was questioning how the inserts were positioned. The 1949 Winchester Model 94 #1617975 I purchased came from an owner who inherited the rifle from a family member who purchased it new. The rifle appears to have been put back in the box with the inserts incorrectly. 

I am also questioning why some Model 94’s have a gloss finish on the stock and some do not. Mine does not. The photos are of poor quality and do not show the rifle in it’s preserved factory new state. Later I will be researching correct saddle rings. There are now AFTERMARKET saddle rings available.

John

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I can’t help you with the layout of the box interior.  I suspect that if you applied a little bit of wood cleaning polish with a soft rag, the finish would look a fair bit glossier.

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Some guns were oiled and others were varnished.  If oiled apply some oil. Let it soak in for a day and if you see dry spots add more.  When there are no dry spots wipe off all the excess oil.

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This model 1894 made in 1895 has more of a gloss finish than my model 94. My model 94 and 64 have the same non gloss finish. The photo of my 94 is a bad photo and doesn’t show the finish accurately. Would this finish be stock on a 1894?

 

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My NIB 1951 model 64 wood finish.

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My NIB 1954 model 71 wood finish.

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The gun in the first picture may have had something wiped over the wood?  A varnish or tru oil?  94’s could have come varnished.  The other 2 look OK to me.  Leave the last 2 alone.  You can oil them but don’t make them shiny.  Some guns did come shiny.  I am not sure if these did?

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The Model 1894 made in 1895 has enhanced finish on it… it did not look like that when it left the factory warehouse.

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The finishes on your model 64, and 71 are correct.

Al

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